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re: Bossier teachers are possibly planning a strike or walkout

Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:39 am to
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:39 am to
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So how much of a raise would they have gotten? Whats the average salary now and what would it have been?
All school employees were to get a raise: "professionals" $7200/yr, "others" $3000/yr. Millage was for 10 yrs.

JP's new guy comes from deSoto Parish.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 11:41 am
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:40 am to
This site has a calculator to show the old tax vs what the new would have been

LINK
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21653 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:40 am to
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yeah, those fricking rich arse teachers already make enough money


40k (about the median) for a teacher is really about 55-60k when you factor in the 15-17 weeks off that they get every year. Much more for administration and coaches who do more than the standard rank and file teacher. Imagine that, they get paid more too.

Lets not pretend they aren't compensated well given the amount they work.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8085 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:43 am to
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Asking for 26 plus mills new seems like a really, really big ask.


Exactly.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40182 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:47 am to
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All school employees were to get a raise: "professionals" $7200/yr, "others" $3000/yr. Millage was for 10 yrs.


That's a huge bump.

LA ranks 37th for average teacher salaries, but 17th for new teacher salaries.

Rather than raising all salaries like that, I wish they would take any new money and invest it in the veteran teachers who deserve it.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:51 am to

This is going to happen in Texas sooner or later. The defeated bills Sunday have teachers royally pissed for the most part.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40182 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:53 am to
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This is going to happen in Texas sooner or later. The defeated bills Sunday have teachers royally pissed for the most part.


I thought the state raises there were a done deal?
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:58 am to
Source: Bossier School Board Minutes 1-19-19"move that an agenda item be added to request staff to bring back to the Board all necessary information to proceed with a resolution calling for a special election for a $3,000 pay increase for Support Staff, $7,200 pay increase for Professional Staff, and for improvements to the technology infrastructure.


Motion by Michael S Mosura, second by Eric Newman.

Final Resolution: Motion Carries

Yea: Dennis Bamburg, Kent L Bockhaus, Billie Jo Brotherton, Glen Bullard, Shane Cheatham, Sandra Darby, Duane Deen, Michael S Mosura, Eric Newman, J W Slack, Tammy A Smith, Kenneth M Wiggins"
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:05 pm to
Yeah, seems like the school board got greedy - that's way too big of a raise and a tax increase to put through all at once.

It's approx $260 for every 100K in value above 75K.
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10912 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:06 pm to
The funny thing is that only 34% of registered voters in the parish actually voted in that large of a landslide.

Where were all of their mommas and diddys at? Grandmaws and pow pows? Spewing shite to their faces, but stayed in the bed Saturday morning because they dont want their property taxes to increase just so Ashley can get a few more bucks to spend at StrangeBrew on the weekends.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:09 pm to
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Michael S Mosura


His arse is in jail.
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13190 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:10 pm to
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yeah, those fricking rich arse teachers already make enough money.


They knew how much they were making when they entered the field... it's not up to property owners to pay 24% more because they decide to bitch about it now. Bossier is the only parish to my knowledge to propose something this insane.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91293 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:13 pm to
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Also look at Caddo and Webster revenue/student. Almost the exact same as Bossier's, they pay teachers 5 to 7% more.


Student enrollment in Bossier is up 15.2% in the last 10 years.

BPSB employees are up more than twice that amount. Seems like their beef needs to be with administration. Striking really only hurts the students and families.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Those teachers are underpaid and overworked.


you don’t believe this do you?

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It’s a crime really and those kids will suffer because greedy assholes are worried about a few dollars in taxes


Since when has teaching public school been considered something that should be a lucrative career?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:17 pm to

Not yet.
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10912 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:24 pm to
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His arse is in jail.


Lotta cats around here shriveled up when big Mike went down
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:26 pm to
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40k (about the median) for a teacher is really about 55-60k when you factor in the 15-17 weeks off that they get every year

i understand what you are saying, but that "factoring in" doesn't make that money magically appear... they are still not getting paid during that time... and i know the rebuttal will be "well, get a 2nd job during the summer", which some do, but it's not quite that simple... not very many places that pay well are going to hire someone, knowing they are only going to be there for 15-17 weeks, and that's it...

in reality, at the end of the day, they actually only make the stated amount, not the "factored in" amount...

and yes, there is opportunity to "do more" but even if every single teacher at whatever school wanted to, there aren't enough spots... there is only one head coach of each sport, a few assistants of each sport, etc...

not to mention, teachers have to spend a lot of money out of pocket to cover supplies, when shite runs out and there's no money from the school to buy supplies... imagine you had to start buying all the paper at your office when it runs out all of sudden... think that would put a dent in your bottom line, eventually? i bet it would...

teachers do not get paid commiserate with how important their job really is... sorry, they just don't...
Posted by captainahab
Highway Trio8
Member since Dec 2014
1653 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:27 pm to
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….you get what you pay for... you wanna skimp on pay and resources for our educators, then don't cry when our kids aren't being sufficiently educated...


Well that is the problem. I paid/pay for it and never used it because I sent my kids to private school (K-12).

It was not fun busting my arse and making financial sacrifices for 25 years just to send three kids to a private school that was not much better than most public schools in Texas.

Do I get some sort of property tax credit from the parish/state if I want my kids to be safe?
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33149 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:34 pm to
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we lost so we strike


Government employees following the national politicians' lead.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10465 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:42 pm to
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This weekend, Bossier Parish residents voted down pay raises for Bossier Parish School teachers

I'm sick of ALL teachers. Your liberal asses knew what the job paid when you decided to go into teaching. Don't bitch to me about how much it pays. I can't wait for the opportunity to VOTE IT DOWN!
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