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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:51 pm to
Just saying those two things typically don’t fall within the category of POS

If you think protesting while legally carrying makes someone a POS then you aren’t a red blooded American

And he may have pulled his gun, he may not have. I haven’t seen a definitive angle that would lead someone to believe one way or the other.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:53 pm
Posted by wheelr
Banned
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:51 pm to
I hope things don't get bad here like in MN. Rob Perillo just said ICE will be here tomorrow.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:51 pm to
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these guys may not be


Then theyre unqualified
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23041 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:52 pm to
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Two things can be true

The rhetoric from the left and the ball actions of these lunatic protestors make for a chaotic high tension situation

But that doesn’t excuse the actions of these agents.


Good point, and very similar to what lionward was saying earlier

As to the part about the agent not knowing if the gun was still on the protester, at what point do we assign blame to the officers for not communicating properly in chaotic situations? Could officers theoretically go into arrests with zero comms and be justified in shooting a suspect who actually presented no harm as long as it isn't relayed? Where is the line drawn on those expectations?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70873 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:52 pm to
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Then theyre unqualified


Well yeah, they're throwing anyone out there. I know someone who just became an ICE agent. He was hired and started within a month.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16741 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:53 pm to
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Has to be the biggest POS pistol at this point if thats what happened.


Anyone still carrying this gun needs to think about their life choices.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11789 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:54 pm to
I really don't give a shite one way or another. Plenty of ER nurses and vets are pieces of shite though.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91563 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:54 pm to
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If that is the suspect's gun, that is literally a second or two, aka a split-second decision. Not like the cops have a hive mind, and the other officers knew the gun was taken away if that is it. You guys are Monday morning quarterbacking a literal split-second decision that could have been life or death for one of the officers.
I don’t understand what you’re seeing that triggers a good shoot.

Y’all seem to be inventing guns.

What did an officer see to shoot this man?

Say his shirt comes up and he’s got a pistol along his belt in the back.

Ok, you’re a cop and just shoved a guy down and see his legal firearm in his arse crack. What now? Well it looks like an officer easily took it.

Now what?

Why are we shooting this man?
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
24393 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:55 pm to
This was a bad one. Let's just all admit that.

ETA: I don't want officers put in bad situations. Walz ad Frey are creating bad situations, but they still need to maintain discipline.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:58 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182541 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:55 pm to
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Not like they're trained on how to detain someone when its fricking 8 on 1 either



Well, the last time cops detained someone using their training a black dude died from swallowing fentanyl and MN burned.

But seriously, they were in the process of getting him detained when the gun came out. Just because they didn't have him under control in the whole 5 seconds he was on the ground doesn't mean much.

As far as defending it, I don't have to defend it to point out the stupidity of the dude carrying a weapon while interfering in LEO actions that had nothing to do with him and paying with his life.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72160 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:56 pm to
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I really don't give a shite one way or another. Plenty of ER nurses and vets are pieces of shite though.


How many ER nurse veterans do you know that are pieces of shite?

I’m not saying they don’t exist, but I don’t know any, so I can’t necessarily agree with you when I have no evidence
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:57 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41114 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:57 pm to
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His question was about pushing someone to the ground. That seems pretty minimal for someone acting irrationally.


Why is it not surprising you can’t appreciate the difference between what is the minimum legal bar to clear vs what is the department protocol and training?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122919 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:57 pm to
We don’t have to go march to admit the facts at hand lend to an indication of a bad shoot. There is still more that may come out but for now, this doesn’t look good.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
14687 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:57 pm to
How about that guy not even be there disrupting ICE operations. Play stupid games.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72160 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:58 pm to
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As far as defending it, I don't have to defend it to point out the stupidity of the dude carrying a weapon while interfering in LEO actions that had nothing to do with him and paying with his life.


10-4 so you’re not a fan of the 2nd amendment
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11789 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:58 pm to
You don't know any veterans that are pieces of shite?

Mmmkay
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182541 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:58 pm to
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Say his shirt comes up and he’s got a pistol along his belt in the back.

Ok, you’re a cop and just shoved a guy down and see his legal firearm in his arse crack. What now? Well it looks like an officer easily took it.



People ITT said the suspect's gun went off, and you can hear that in the video. If it went off in the cop's hand or not is the question, but either way, the gun went off. I would imagine in the heat of all of that and knowing he had a gun, then hearing a shot, the officer assumed he was firing and made a literal split-second decision.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
19037 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:59 pm to
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We have some folks here just assuming that he had been disarmed and then using that assumption as fact in their argument.

And you are here just assuming that he pulled a gun on them? What makes your assumption more valid than anyone else's?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72160 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:59 pm to
I don’t know any ER nurse veterans at all, much less any that are POS

But also, no, I don’t know any POS veterans personally. My crowd isn’t generally shitty people
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39702 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:00 pm to
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The one where he is strong-arming the officer


Strong-arming

Jesus man
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