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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:04 pm to
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
11595 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:04 pm to
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Why didn't all of you guys protest when Obama deported way more people than Trump has?


We've already established they won't answer because they are morally repugnant.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91563 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:05 pm to
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He was maced because he was literally not listening. What part of that don’t you understand?
I do understand.

I’d say he was probably maced because he wasn’t listening. But listening to what? The officer doesn’t seem to be giving any clear orders from what I’ve heard.

But say he’s telling the deceased to leave. And he doesn’t so he maces him.

Cool. Seems fine.

What happened after wasn’t fine. And they probably murdered him.

quote:

If you guys left the internet and got into the real world you’d maybe understand that if you are not 100% complying, you are a serious threat. End of story
You have issues my man
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4753 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:05 pm to
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You idiots always try to downplay the role of the other person as if he were simply filming when the videos clearly shows otherwise.

The point you refer to stands. He would be alive had he stayed home and let LEO enforce immigration laws.

Why didn't all of you guys protest when Obama deported way more people than Trump has?


I didn't support it, but it does seem like it was done much more competently than it is currently.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
46146 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:05 pm to
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It’s gonna be all fun and game until you see one of your family members, or worse yet your sons, dead laying on the ground.


Luckily nobody in my family is retarded enough to impede law enforcement and pick & choose to depending on what administration is in the White House
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182541 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:06 pm to
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He also had his hand up


Hands up don't shoot? Remember that false narrative you guys pushed then too?

What about when he was fighting 8 LEO while they tried to contain him? Did he have his hands up then or was he resisting?
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27227 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:07 pm to
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In my eyes he resisted, but there is also context that should be added. He got blasted with peper spray and has like 6 guys on him. Adreneline + harder to breathe + getting a smack down. Still dont see any real credible reason as to why they shot him. An arrest should be sufficient.

exactly. And resisting doesn't justify use of deadly force anyway.

the only justification of lethal force in minnesota is if the person shot is when the officers are in threat of death or great bodily harm.

they will have a hard time stating they were in imminent threat of death or great bodily harm from a guy on his knees with his head down facing the ground and his right forearm flat on the ground.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23041 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:07 pm to
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The point you replied to still stands. He would be alive had he stayed home and let LEO enforce immigration laws.


What are your thoughts on Ashli Babbitt?
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20113 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:07 pm to
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The agent might have been the aggressor here


Might?

First we have a lawful right to carry. Secondly, the guy didn't have the weapon out, when a bunch of ICE officers jumped him, one of them disarmed him, then while disarmed and held down by like 8 people.... they shot him?

Then they just keep firing?

Man we really lost ourselves.

If this were a Liberal president using these federal organizations and kill Republicans in the south there is no one here who would defend this, rationalize it, etc..

That's my biggest fear though.. it takes one election for them to want payback. See Trump for an example.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182541 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:08 pm to
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but it does seem like it was done much more competently than it is currently.



It was done practically the same way. ICE tactics haven't changed. There are operations in multiple states yet the only state where people are getting shot is the state where people are interfering.

Texas probably has more ICE operations than any state right now. Why has no one there been shot?
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
11595 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:08 pm to
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I didn't support it, but it does seem like it was done much more competently than it is currently


It was exactly the same processes. CNN did a ride along and praised the operations

You should have gone and obstructed Obama's operations and seen what happened. But you weren't told to by your leaders.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39702 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:08 pm to
This is perfectly stated.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182541 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

What are your thoughts on Ashli Babbitt?



I have never defended her if that's what you're asking

Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27594 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:09 pm to
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Remember that false narrative you guys pushed then too?


Now you're worried about false narratives Mr. Muzzle smoke

lol
quote:

What about when he was fighting 8 LEO while they tried to contain him? Did he have his hands up then or was he resisting?


Jfc
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23041 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:10 pm to
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I have never defended her if that's what you're asking


Did she deserve to get shot and killed?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70873 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:11 pm to
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That's my biggest fear though.. it takes one election for them to want payback. See Trump for an example.


I would argue that Trump was the response, not the initiator.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20113 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:11 pm to
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Luckily nobody in my family is retarded enough to impede law enforcement and pick & choose to depending on what administration is in the White House


So if a radical leftist gets in office then uses these same ICE hit squads to create the police state to enforce their control.... what then??

If the entire point of having guns is to defend ourselves from that literal future, what is even the point if you say no one should ever impede law enforcement???

So if some psycho gets in office and uses these unchecked powers to force some ultra-sexualized or even other warped agendas and dares us, according to you we should all accept it and not impede because federal is right and shouldn't be impeded?

Man, this is just sad.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182541 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:12 pm to
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CNN did a ride along and praised the operations



Yep

A day with ICE in the 'Sanctuary City' of Chicago

Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20113 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:13 pm to
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I would argue that Trump was the response, not the initiator.


Okay and after him will be a response. This will never end but instead of leading we're allowing ourselves to be lead to slaughter by people on both sides who share the same agenda of division for profit.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27227 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:13 pm to
dude trust me we get it Chicago sucks for ICE as well as Minneapolis

those things aren't calculated in whether or not lethal force is authorized.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:15 pm
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66978 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:13 pm to
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I didn't support it, but it does seem like it was done much more competently than it is currently.



It is still being done pretty competently everywhere else but Minnesota. Why is that?
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