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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:45 am to
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40378 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:45 am to
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while also have the opinion that the "bad shoot" wouldn't have happened if things weren't being handled by state and local government to intentionally provoke such "bad shoots", yet by bringing this point up you're immediately labeled a government boot licker who thinks ICE can do whatever they want.


Man yall love personal responsibility until you don’t

It wouldn’t have happened if the officers didn’t frick up to an embarrassing degree

“But but but the atmosphere and the rhetoric!”

He shot an unarmed American in the back
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:45 am to
quote:

I didn't say "yell at." I'm suggesting that past incidents impact current tolerance and actions.


What it doesn't affect is the propriety or legality of those "current actions"
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20516 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:45 am to
These same people were in the “FAFO” crowd when Ashley Babbit, an unarmed woman, was shot and anyone within sight of the capital was thrown in jail for J6.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:46 am to
quote:

My point proven in real time


But you seem to reject this part:

quote:

the "bad shoot" wouldn't have happened if things weren't being handled by state and local government to intentionally provoke such "bad shoots"


Am I wrong about that?
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 10:46 am
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40378 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:46 am to
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Even if they think the shooting was bad, it's a cope mechanism to protect the in-group identity OR, probably more important, avoid being labeled or self-conceptualized as the out-group.


This

And then Centinel comes in with the exact example of this
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
9341 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:46 am to
quote:

Ashley Babbit, an unarmed woman, was shot and anyone within sight of the capital was thrown in jail for J6.


Breaking the door and climbing through to access elected officials… good shoot

EDIT: imagine if ICE officers were guarding the capital. Imagine more would have been shot
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 10:47 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75692 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:47 am to
bookmark this thread for when the Left is back in power. They won’t even attempt to hide their hypocrisy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Am I wrong about that?


The "bad shoot" wouldn't have happened if the Trump admin didn't choose to create the "largest ICE operation in history" to create this chaos.

Am I wrong about that?

You're just trying to establish the framing to fit your point within it. Nothing more.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49554 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:48 am to
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Then the goal is no longer maximizing the removals.


The goal is to begin to rectify the significant systemic harm done to the country by the unlawful flood of illegal immigration.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40378 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:48 am to
I’m glad it took you 24 hours and probably 50 posts of shite slinging in this thread to come to your powerful “everybody sucks” stance

So brave and not at all the words of a fence sitting moderate who can’t admit when his side has fricked up bigly
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 10:49 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92195 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:49 am to
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How does it feel to get 2 days of SFP treatment, friend?
Feels good man

I think we’ve done a decent job wrestling away the ridiculous narrative that some have tried to establish while facilitating solid debate.

The bootlickers do NOT like that. But, i think it only helps our case here. Let em get mad at us and show their character.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:49 am to
quote:

The "bad shoot" wouldn't have happened if the Trump admin didn't choose to create the "largest ICE operation in history" to create this chaos.



You didn't answer my question. Do you believe the handling of the situation in Minneapolis by state and local government is intended to provoke these specific types of interactions?

Yes or no.
Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
3755 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:50 am to
quote:

He shot an unarmed American in the back


It's concerning how many people here don't see it this way.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80734 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:50 am to
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What it doesn't affect is the propriety or legality of those "current actions"
I understand that.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10637 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:50 am to
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Ya'll a bunch of boot licking cucks for fat donny.


quote:

Number of Posts: 295


Eat shite and die, alter.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5621 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:50 am to
He doesn’t look brown to me? Neither was the other.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19542 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:51 am to
TD pseudo intellectuals changing the world one key stroke at a time.

End of the day, given the circumstances, things were always going to devolve and deviate from Newton's Third Law.

This will continue to be a shite show until one of the group's steps in offering cooler heads.

Hard to see that happening so best to continue to die on our respective self righteous platforms.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40378 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:52 am to
I agree

And imagine if it wasn’t on video?

We’d never get the truth. Stephen Miller called this dude an assassin and a domestic terrorist, and there are people here who gulped up that lie even AFTER seeing this guy get disarmed and shot to death on his knees

That’s fricking insane
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88257 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:52 am to
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The "bad shoot" wouldn't have happened if the Trump admin didn't choose to create the "largest ICE operation in history" to create this chaos.
Would they have had to if states complied with detainers like they did with Obama?
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 10:53 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49554 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:53 am to
quote:

The "bad shoot" wouldn't have happened if the Trump admin didn't choose to create the "largest ICE operation in history" to create this chaos.

Am I wrong about that?


And Trump’s largest ICE operation in history doesn’t happen without massive illegal immigrants crossing the border under Biden’s unlawful immigration policy

Or the massive immigration fraud scene in Minnesota that has been permitted by MN government

Or the blatant refusal of the MN government to enforce the law.

How far out do we want to go?



Making political arguments in a vacuum is a nonstarter
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