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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:54 am to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:54 am to ReauxlTide222
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Feels good man
I think we’ve done a decent job wrestling away the ridiculous narrative that some have tried to establish while facilitating solid debate.
Wait until you see what Vacherie Saint is trying on the poli board
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:54 am to Centinel
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You didn't answer my question.
I showed why it's a bad question. Hint: it's the stuff you didn't quote.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:54 am to Misnomer
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It's concerning how many people here don't see it this way.
As someone who has already stated multiple times that ICE has a level of culpability here, I want to point out that the shooting agent had no way to know that Pretti had been disarmed at the time he fired.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:55 am to Antonio Moss
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And Trump’s largest ICE operation in history doesn’t happen without massive illegal immigrants crossing the border under Biden’s unlawful immigration policy
Now you're taking his framing shifting and REALLY shifting the framing.
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Making political arguments in a vacuum is a nonstarter
I wasn't making a political argument. I was pointing out diverting the conversation into that was a type of cope-defense mechanism, actually.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 10:57 am
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:56 am to Antonio Moss
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How far out do we want to go?
BuT we ShOulD jUsT fOcUs on TeXAs
And just ignore and area because they’re throwing a temper tantrum
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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The "bad shoot" wouldn't have happened if the Trump admin didn't choose to create the "largest ICE operation in history" to create this chaos.
Am I wrong about that?
Yes. This is a ridiculous argument.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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I showed why it's a bad question.
Irrelevant.
Yes or no?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:56 am to NawlinsTiger9
you keep replying to me when I haven’t spoken to you. If it isn’t already apparent, let me make it clear: your opinion of me or my posts is irrelevant to me. To me, you’re just another Leftist pretending to be a Moderate.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:57 am to tylercsbn9
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BuT we ShOulD jUsT fOcUs on TeXAs
And just ignore and area because they’re throwing a temper tantrum
We have already established your focus isn't on maximizing detentions and deportations.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:58 am to Antonio Moss
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doesn’t happen without massive illegal immigrants crossing the border
This for the win. This should have never been allowed and Democrats are responsible for this.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:58 am to SlowFlowPro
Framing? You used an “if” statement as if that was the sole catalyst of this whole situation. It’s not.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:58 am to Centinel
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Irrelevant.
Yes or no?
You trying to frame-shift is just digging yourself deeper into this hole
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it's a cope mechanism to protect the in-group identity OR, probably more important, avoid being labeled or self-conceptualized as the out-group.
Making that frame-shifting partisan is amplifying the impact
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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You trying to frame-shift is just digging yourself deeper into this hole
You've been attempting to frame-shift this entire thread, which is why you're ignoring my pointed yes or no question.
So, again, yes or no.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 11:01 am
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:59 am to ell_13
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Framing? You used an “if” statement as if that was the sole catalyst of this whole situation.
Centinel did this, actually. I used it to show his frame-shifting attempt.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 10:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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We have already established your focus isn't on maximizing detentions and deportations.
So when do we worry about Minnesota? When the dems have the presidency again and they suddenly don’t care about ICE again?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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I was pointing out diverting the conversation into that was a type of cope-defense mechanism, actually.
I wouldn’t considering a coping mechanism. It’s rightly discussing this issue in terms of political culpability - which is what all sides are ultimately doing including you.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
Starting an argument with “this wouldn’t have happened if…” then blaming Trump isn’t political framing!?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:00 am to FLObserver
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This for the win. This should have never been allowed and Democrats are responsible for this.
It’s been stated several times already… neither party has or intends to push for true immigration system and court reform. It’s too politically advantageous for both parties
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:01 am to Antonio Moss
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As someone who has already stated multiple times that ICE has a level of culpability here
A level of culpability
Jesus
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the shooting agent had no way to know that Pretti had been disarmed at the time he fired.
Is this supposed to excuse or explain the shooting in any way?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro
Man I have a 12:30 tee time. I don’t have time for that.
I’ve said my peace, so until more develops here, I’m probably done posting about it anyways.
I’ve said my peace, so until more develops here, I’m probably done posting about it anyways.
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