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re: Boom to bust: Crude oil costing families
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:24 pm to NashBamaFan
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:24 pm to NashBamaFan
quote:The economy can survive either way. Like you stated, that extra money is going to other places including savings accounts. There were other factors going on in the early 2000s that helped contribute to the oil spike. Most of it was political and some of it was from the tech bubble bursting.
I don't know that any of this is fact. That's why I'm asking for an explanation. Why , when gas prices shot up in the early 00s to mid 00s the economy suffered can the economy not thrive as they've come back down to a bit above a dollar a gallon? Please, someone smarter than myself, explain.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:29 pm to MontyFranklyn
It just seemed , to me , that everyone had to tighten up in their households due , mainly , to having to spend 4 times as much a week on fuel. Now.....people in the oil business who were living large while most were scraping buy are complaining because the tables have turned. I think low gas prices are GREAT for the economy and allow people to live a bit easier when it comes to finances. I could be totally wrong about that , but that's how I feel. I'm trying to find a reason to feel sorry for folks in the oil industry when they weren't feeling bad for the rest of America when gas was pushing 5.00 a gallon.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:31 pm to NashBamaFan
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I think low gas prices are GREAT for the economy and allow people to live a bit easier when it comes to finances.
They are.
There are always winners and losers in economics. Steelworkers and autoworkers felt the pain in the 70's & 80's.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:32 pm to Geauxgurt
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Well, when you chose to work in an industry that makes tons of money ripping off consumers,
Ignorant people amaze me.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:35 pm to NashBamaFan
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I'm trying to find a reason to feel sorry for folks in the oil industry when they weren't feeling bad for the rest of America when gas was pushing 5.00 a gallon.
The point most try to make is that they don't feel bad for the 10% of the workers who don't save their money properly and lose their job. However you seem to think that all workers in this sector are the reason gas skyrocketed.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:37 pm to notiger1997
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Ignorant people amaze me
The way Crude Oil prices are created based on pure speculation is a racket my good sir. Just because it seems to somehow be legitimate to those that benefit from it, don't make it a serious ripoff, especially seeing as how the US Taxpayer bailed all of these oil companies out nearly 30-40 years ago with absolutely nothing to show for it.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:37 pm to thegreatboudini
My point in this thread is to try and continue to point out how many people not directly employed in the oil and gas industry are going to be hurting bad.
This isn't comparable to someones gas expenses going up $125 a month.
This is whole towns and communities being decimated.
This isn't comparable to someones gas expenses going up $125 a month.
This is whole towns and communities being decimated.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:41 pm to notiger1997
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This is whole towns and communities being decimated.
Let's slow that hyperbole train down some
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:42 pm to notiger1997
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This is whole towns and communities being decimated.
It's happened many times in the past. Whether it's an interstate going to another area, auto industry slowing or a mine shutting down.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:48 pm to thegreatboudini
I don't think anyone on this board is the reason prices were high , only that lost were enjoying the fact that while most industries were down they're pockets were filling up and now that the tables are turned , somewhat , they're complaining. I certainly don't blame anyone for cashing in by working in the O&G industry the past 10 years, I commend them. However , the time has come that their salaries come back down to reality similar to the price of gas.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:51 pm to NashBamaFan
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However , the time has come that their salaries come back down to reality similar to the price of gas.
what on gods earth do you think a production engineer, drilling engineer, geologist or a geophysicist make?
I know people who work in commercial insurance that make more money than all of them.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:54 pm to notiger1997
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This isn't comparable to someones gas expenses going up $125 a month.
This is whole towns and communities being decimated.
Build an economy on something that volatile?
My Dad got laid off in 1986 during the big 80's shite show.
Good Cajun boy (not a Baw) rolled out of the Army (invitation) and into a good paying job. It was a no-brainer for the time. 1970-1986. Why go to college? They laid all the experienced union guys off and took them all back as contractors when the market picked back up.
It sucks, but it was the life he chose for himself as a younger man not understanding all variables. Not that Dad would have run to college, but he could have prepared better. 16 years in a company and POOF! Been happening since the modern days of OSHA and such. Hell even before during "company store" days, mines shut down.
I am out here in Katy and it is rolling uphill. Engineers and other bosses are being told to frick off. Stressful time, but you can't be shocked. Hell you shouldn't be mad. you are dealing with "the devil you know."
Posted on 2/23/16 at 5:00 pm to RedRifle
The MC Shrimp and Petroleum festival will have more drunks than usual this year.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 5:04 pm to thegreatboudini
I don't know what they make. I'm going off of what I see here everyday. I'm not trying to take a side. I just think that low oil prices will help the economy but I'm also aware it is hurting people in the business and their families. I'm just trying to learn both sides here.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 5:39 pm to NashBamaFan
I work in the industry and know people who have been laid off recently. Most are professionals with degrees that planned for the rainy day and will be fine long term.
I don't know of anyone personally wanting others to sacrifice and pay more for things so that someone in the oil and gas industry can have nice things. In my opinion it is ludicrous for anyone to think that someone should pay for someone else which is why I don't support socialism.
But people who bitch because they want gas at a dollar so they have more money to spend elsewhere are the same ones who have no problem with paying more than a dollar for a bottle of water.
If you live anywhere on the Gulf Coast this downturn will eventually effect you negatively. The original poster only posted the section of the article that would stir up the most crap. The other part of the article was talking about a school maybe needing to close due to loss tax revenue.
I don't know of anyone personally wanting others to sacrifice and pay more for things so that someone in the oil and gas industry can have nice things. In my opinion it is ludicrous for anyone to think that someone should pay for someone else which is why I don't support socialism.
But people who bitch because they want gas at a dollar so they have more money to spend elsewhere are the same ones who have no problem with paying more than a dollar for a bottle of water.
If you live anywhere on the Gulf Coast this downturn will eventually effect you negatively. The original poster only posted the section of the article that would stir up the most crap. The other part of the article was talking about a school maybe needing to close due to loss tax revenue.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 6:04 pm to RedRifle
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He'd been doing it for 35 years.
Then there is no reason he shouldn't have 12 months living expenses and be working part time until that sector picks backs up.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 6:04 pm to ItNeverRains
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Then there is no reason he shouldn't have 12 months living expenses and be working part time until that sector picks backs up.
Ohhhh, another original thought.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 6:07 pm to notiger1997
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Ohhhh, another original thought
And a melt retort. It's now a trifecta
Posted on 2/23/16 at 6:08 pm to TigerFred
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But people who bitch because they want gas at a dollar so they have more money to spend elsewhere are the same ones who have no problem with paying more than a dollar for a bottle of water.
Bottled water is optional for everyone not in a 3rd world country or Detroit (same thing really). Gas isn't unless you live in a city with a transit system so your analogy is horrible.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 6:10 pm to RedRifle
And other industries have the same issues from time to time.
I would like to think a guy who has worked offshore for 35 years has saved some money along the way.
I would like to think a guy who has worked offshore for 35 years has saved some money along the way.
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