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re: Body Cam footage of Atlanta police shooting released.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:49 am to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:49 am to TeddyPadillac
ahhh see.....you're confused because you dont know the difference between "detained" and "arrested"
now apologize for being a dumbass
This is what I said.....
now apologize for being a dumbass
This is what I said.....
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They should have called EMS and had the guy checked out....on top of that they should have detained him as soon as he ran up on the curb....
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:50 am to tgrbaitn08
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re: Body Cam footage of Atlanta police shooting released.Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:49 am to TeddyPadillac
The officers spent 40 minutes trying to be polite and calm with the guy that was obviously bombed out his mind.
They should have called EMS and had the guy checked out....on top of that they should have detained him as soon as he ran up on the curb....
So if Lester is saying it was poor policing.....maybe he's right in that sense
Would you like to apologize?
In a perfect world, what you said is what should be able to happen, but that's not the world we live in, b/c we have criminals and we have attorneys who will find loopholes to get those criminals off with as little as possible.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:51 am to TeddyPadillac
You still dont know the difference between detained and arrested.
I feel sorry for you.
I feel sorry for you.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:52 am to tgrbaitn08
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I feel sorry for you.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:55 am to tgrbaitn08
I didn't say it was excessive force. Just bad policing.
Cop should get off by the letter of the law.
Doesn't change the fact that the situation he put himself in was avoidable.
Cop should get off by the letter of the law.
Doesn't change the fact that the situation he put himself in was avoidable.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:56 am to tgrbaitn08
Handcuffed, detained, and arrested are extremely close. For instance, you are wrong in your definition of detained as well. He was already detained because he was technically being held for questioning. He wasn’t free to leave until the tests and questions were over.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:57 am to Lester Earl
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Doesn't change the fact that the situation he put himself in was avoidable.
Could be, but unlike some controversial interactions (Zimmerman, for example), the first several "bad acts" were by the perp.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:58 am to ell_13
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For instance, you are wrong in your definition of detained as well. He was already detained because he was technically being held for questioning. He wasn’t free to leave until the tests and questions were over.
If I meant cuffed and stuffed I would have said arrested.
I used detained because that’s what I meant.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:58 am to tgrbaitn08
And you don't understand that police have protocols they must follow before they arrest someone for DUI.
As i said, i don't disagree with what you think should have happened. Detained can still mean handcuffed, so again, all you're doing is deflecting from the point once again.
Let's say they did detain him after he ran up on the curb. Then what? they talk to him and realize he's under the influence. Are they supposed to take him out of the cuffs that they just used to detain him and perform field sobriety tests? Are they supposed to just let him go? They can't arrest him for DUI just b/c he was asleep in the drive thru and ran up the curb, even though we all know it's about a 99% chance he was under the influence, that's not how it works in court.
As i said, i don't disagree with what you think should have happened. Detained can still mean handcuffed, so again, all you're doing is deflecting from the point once again.
Let's say they did detain him after he ran up on the curb. Then what? they talk to him and realize he's under the influence. Are they supposed to take him out of the cuffs that they just used to detain him and perform field sobriety tests? Are they supposed to just let him go? They can't arrest him for DUI just b/c he was asleep in the drive thru and ran up the curb, even though we all know it's about a 99% chance he was under the influence, that's not how it works in court.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:58 am to Lester Earl
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Doesn't change the fact that the situation he put himself in was avoidable.
quote:So, according to you, the cop should have let a clearly intoxicated enraged person run out on the streets with a weapon
Lester Earl
Cool
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:58 am to Lester Earl
quote:How so? What did he do that was wrong?
Doesn't change the fact that the situation he put himself in was avoidable.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:59 am to tgrbaitn08
He was already detained when you said “he should have been detained.”
ETA: stopping someone for questioning and a FST is detainment.
ETA: stopping someone for questioning and a FST is detainment.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 11:01 am
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:03 am to Lester Earl
I think it was bad policing caused by the events going on. It seemed like they were being overly careful on subduing the man, which is why he was able to get free imo. But with police being charged left and right now and the second you use force it gets thrown on the internet without the full story, I can imagine them now trying to CYA and it can affect the way you work. I think overly cautious policing leading to perps breaking free may cause incidents like this to become more common.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:04 am to ell_13
Driving while intoxicated. Resisting arrest. Taking the officers taser and then trying to use it point black at another officer? You think the man couldn’t have avoided doing any of those things?
ETA: Apologies. I guess Lester is still defending the drunk man trying to point a laser he stole from an officer at another officer.
ETA: Apologies. I guess Lester is still defending the drunk man trying to point a laser he stole from an officer at another officer.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 11:06 am
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:05 am to Indfanfromcol
quote:And the “witnesses” stilled called it harassment. It’s a no win situation for cops.
I think it was bad policing caused by the events going on. It seemed like they were being overly careful on subduing the man, which is why he was able to get free imo. But with police being charged left and right now and the second you use force it gets thrown on the internet without the full story, I can imagine them now trying to CYA and it can affect the way you work. I think overly cautious policing leading to perps breaking free may cause incidents like this to become more common.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:05 am to Indfanfromcol
Lester is blaming the cop.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:05 am to Pettifogger
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Could be, but unlike some controversial interactions (Zimmerman, for example), the first several "bad acts" were by the perp.
Sure, but it should still not end up in death.
Running away with a non-deadly(inaccurate/unreliable) weapon doesn't exactly call for deadly force.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:06 am to Lester Earl
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Sure, but it should still not end up in death.
Running away with a non-deadly(inaccurate/unreliable) weapon doesn't exactly call for deadly force.
You're nothing if not persistent. I do admire that.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:07 am to Lester Earl
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Running away with a non-deadly(inaccurate/unreliable) weapon doesn't exactly call for deadly force.
Wanna know how I know you're a fat, lazy, cowardly person who spends his entire life on the Internet and who has never been in a real fight in his life?
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:09 am to LegendInMyMind
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You're nothing if not persistent. I do admire that.
He's the sort of person who doesn't realize that his refusal to hold young black men responsible for their actions is actually causing their deaths.
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