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re: Bloomberg: Big Oil Goes Looking for a Career Change

Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22797 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:36 pm to
The green jobs push by politicians is a scam for money.
Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:39 pm to
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O&G is going to get hammered over the next 10 years as more and more electric vehicles come online


Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48519 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:39 pm to
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O&G is going to get hammered over the next 10 years as more and more electric vehicles come online

We probably have hit peak oil consumption in this country but it's not going anywhere. China and India are probably nowhere close.

I think it will take a lot more than 10 years for EVs to become even a majority of passenger vehicles. I'd say 20-30.
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 2:42 pm
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
5515 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:42 pm to
Y'all wait and see. Battery technology is going to take off over the next decade making it a much easier choice for consumers to choose electric over gas.
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
7023 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:46 pm to
Where ya think that battery power is coming from ya dummy?

Solar and wind?


Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11096 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:47 pm to
Dude electric power is mostly generated by fossil fuels. You climate people wouldn't want a transition that quick it would be a boom for O&G. People are so bad at predicting the speed of stuff like this
Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
5582 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:48 pm to
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That’s all over now. The change has been so profound that the chief executive officer of BP Plc traded in his F250 and custom bumper nuts for a prius and a pussy hat
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:48 pm to
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Battery technology is going to take off over the next decade making it a much easier choice for consumers to choose electric over gas.


Battery/electric is currently grossly more energy-negative than fossil fuels. A whole lot of shite goes into making the outlet have power and making a plastic box that can store power.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55610 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:49 pm to
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Where ya think that battery power is coming from ya dummy?
A LOT less fuel
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7532 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:50 pm to
A bunch of refineries are converting to biodiesel right now. It's not because people want more green energy, it's because the profit margins are better. The glut in oil & gas is so big right now, they can't make any profit refining traditional gas and diesel, so they are converting to other uses instead of shutting down the whole plant. HFC in Cheyenne is an example of a huge refinery that is completely shut down right now, Phillips is doing the same at it's huge refineries in California. Those companies are exploring options for other uses instead of keeping them shuttered. What gets me is why gas is still almost $2/gal if there is still so much available everywhere.
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 2:53 pm
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:52 pm to
LOL, we're 50 years from getting off oil.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:58 pm to
Not that long ago Exxon made typewriters and had a land development company for residential homes. They had scientists that were integral to the development of lithium batteries. Just lacked long term thinking.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 2:58 pm to
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Any battery powered air planes or cargo ships?

Musk gave an explanation somewhere of why electric planes aren’t really a thing. But converting ships to hybrid power plants is literally the new rage in the maritime industry. In fact, Harvey Gulf (a Nola company that services O&G exploration) just completed the first conversion of a US flagged vessel
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/16/20 at 3:03 pm to
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converting ships to hybrid power plants is literally the new rage in the maritime industry.


Its an interesting trend I've been following closely.

With boats that hold station on DP for extended hours it can add up to some huge fuel savings for certain operations.

I'd be interested to know if those conversions were subsidized or not though. When you start pulling subsidies these green projects usually become prohibitively expensive.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11096 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 3:04 pm to
Why wouldn't nuclear be the better option when we already have nuclear propulsion in Navy ships?
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
4768 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 3:04 pm to
We literally need to colonize Mars with multiple spaceports to soak up this glut

And we need strict merit based testing to colonize space....
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 3:07 pm to
There have only been a handful of private nuclear powered ships in the world. Im pretty sure there are none right now. It is prohibitively expensive to build a nuclear powered ship.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6506 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 3:07 pm to
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not sure about 10 years but my company's outlook is it will not be over $50/bbl through 2022. which sucks for us.



The forward NYMEX strip seems to agree with your company's outlook

Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11096 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 3:15 pm to
I thought our sub and carrier fleet all used nuclear? It's been a while since I've been informed on military technology.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4882 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 3:20 pm to
Jody is already working on the transition
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