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Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:11 am to Alt26
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Such benefits are completely unsustainable and crushing cities/municipalities
No doubt. That's the reason I got out when I did. Lots of other city employees did the same around the time I left. It was all due to the uncertainty of our pensions at the time. They were paying out way more than what was being paid in and the city council started discussing votes on this and that and talks of unionizing and all sorts of BS. So myself and about 40 other civil servants got what we were eligible for based on time served and a couple other factors and got the hell out.
They ended up unionizing for a while and then ditched that shortly after. Not sure what exactly ever happened with that city's pension fund.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:13 am to LSUsmartass
Does it mention they get OT pay, and can retire at 20 years with full pension?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:14 am to MikeBRLA
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You pay the same whether you have 1 or 10 kids BTW.
On their plan specifically? Most plans it’s 2+ kids that don’t matter
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:15 am to LSUsmartass
We need to pay our police and military way more. We get what we pay for with police and our military folks are just squeezing by. The two most important keepers of order are treated shabbily.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:16 am to kywildcatfanone
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Does it mention they get OT pay, and can retire at 20 years with full pension?
OT pay is the law, what are you implying? And they can't retire at 20 with 100%. I'd venture to say no one can. Even if they could, whats 100% after 20 years at that pay
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:34 am to LSUsmartass
How are they not getting paid time and a half for overtime ?
84 x 16.42 = 1379.28
In this case , shouldn't they be entitled to 4 overtime hours?
84 x 16.42 = 1379.28
In this case , shouldn't they be entitled to 4 overtime hours?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:39 am to yaherrdme
I believe they earn comp time instead of ot pay
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:50 am to LSUsmartass
If you're not an a-hole you can get a ton of detail to make over 60k total
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:54 am to LSUsmartass
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What is cut off in the above image, is the net pay for 84 hours worked came out to $639
The biggest takeaway from that ad is how expensive health insurance is.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 11:12 am to Ignignot
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If you're not an a-hole you can get a ton of detail to make over 60k total
I don't believe there is that much available to the city of DS. LPSO has plenty
Posted on 10/23/19 at 11:22 am to LSUsmartass
They get to tase the shite out of people. There's got to be an added dollar value put on that alone.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 11:34 am to LSUsmartass
-$445.00 Health
Thanks Obama
Thanks Obama
Posted on 10/23/19 at 11:38 am to JumpingTheShark
The issue is most of these careers have scheduled retirement benefits built into their contracts that makes it hard to leave once you have put in at least 5 years into a career.
So lets say a new officer starts out on the job. They don't make much but they are single or newly wed, so they can make it work. They figure if they put in 20 years, they can retire somewhat comfortably with pretty decent benefits including health insurance.
Then they start having kids, need a bigger house, at some point need new cars, whatever. They start having to pull extra duties and/or side work to make ends meet and they are kind of stuck in their low paying job because if they leave, the years worked toward that long term retirement goal is lost.
It is the same situation that many teachers and fireman face. What you were getting paid when you started your career doesn't usually well translate later in life and it is very difficult to forecast those affects/changes when you are starting a new job.
Basically people are stuck in a career that isn't what they thought it would be when they started or doesn't allow for much growth for position/pay.
So when people on the outside looking in say things like "you knew what you were getting into when you took the job" or "find something else to do to make more money" it is a very uneducated and simplistic point of view that is generally pretty insulting to the people that are "stuck" in their careers.
So lets say a new officer starts out on the job. They don't make much but they are single or newly wed, so they can make it work. They figure if they put in 20 years, they can retire somewhat comfortably with pretty decent benefits including health insurance.
Then they start having kids, need a bigger house, at some point need new cars, whatever. They start having to pull extra duties and/or side work to make ends meet and they are kind of stuck in their low paying job because if they leave, the years worked toward that long term retirement goal is lost.
It is the same situation that many teachers and fireman face. What you were getting paid when you started your career doesn't usually well translate later in life and it is very difficult to forecast those affects/changes when you are starting a new job.
Basically people are stuck in a career that isn't what they thought it would be when they started or doesn't allow for much growth for position/pay.
So when people on the outside looking in say things like "you knew what you were getting into when you took the job" or "find something else to do to make more money" it is a very uneducated and simplistic point of view that is generally pretty insulting to the people that are "stuck" in their careers.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 11:52 am to kengel2
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I seriously doubt thats a post certified officers paycheck.
The paycheck is from a 10 year, POST certified officer with 2 kids. Rookies at DS make $14.59 prior to completing the police academy and $15.05 after completion of the FTO program.
The "other" section is 401K, short term disability,..etc".
According to FSLA law municipalities can work police officers 84 hours in a 2 week period without paying overtime. Therefore, those 84 hours are at a straight time rate.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 11:53 am to LSUTigerFan247
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And they can't retire at 20 with 100%
Don't know where your info is from but municipal police in the state of Louisiana cannot retire with 100% until 30 years of service.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:09 pm to LSUTigerFan247
Family of four 1800 for health and dental. No deductible. Thanks, Barack.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:10 pm to TH03
Cops and teachers are 1000% under paid considering the amount of bullshite they have to put up with and it’s a shame.
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:10 pm to LSUsmartass
Lol you don’t need an education to be an officer. Get the frick outta here. Probably why most are fricking scumbag speed trappers
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:19 pm to WaydownSouth
Isn't that the point though ? Aren't we trying to attract better candidates to important roles in our society?
Teachers and military being the other big example for me
Teachers and military being the other big example for me
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