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re: Bike lane controversy on Glenmore Ave in BR

Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2618 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:19 pm to
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I don't hate all of them. Just the smug, holier-than-thou ones like you.


Call it what you want. Cyclist, including myself, just simply want to ride without being run over. Is that too much to ask? Why shouldn't I be able to ride my bike the 8 miles to work without fearing for my life? Answer is because inconsiderate drivers (which aren't the majority in my experience) can't be inconvenienced by a cyclist for a few seconds.

Glenmore isn't even the issue. I personally think they should get rid of the lane and let people park there. No reason a low speed residential road like that needs a bike lane.

Just tired of the same old arguments from cyclist haters that have no basis in reality. It's just the old throw a bunch of accusations out there to deflect from the actual reason you don't want cycling, which is some perceived horrible inconvenience.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:35 pm to
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Glenmore isn't even the issue. I personally think they should get rid of the lane and let people park there. No reason a low speed residential road like that needs a bike lane.



Wow... I didn't realize there was so much bike friction in this town!

I drive in BR a lot, and I seldom have friction with bikes. Then again, I don't drive so much around LSU.

The hate in this thread is real.

Odd.
Posted by piratedude
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2009
2805 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:56 pm to
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I didn't realize there was so much bike friction in this town!
there is friction whenever events or people keep drivers from driving as fast as they want.

you see it in the OT, but that's probably just us running our mouths. i saw it on glenmore at capital heights recently. a girl was riding her bike north on glenmore, next to ingleside church. a car was overtaking her, and there was no southbound traffic. instead of passing the bike, the girl driving the car started blowing her horn and screaming at the biker to get the frick out of the way. when car got to the corner, one of us said "you know she has a right to use the road?" the driver screamed at us "it don't matter, she's going too slow."

we regularly have drivers on capital heights who get frustrated when the bike and foot traffic keep them from going 45 in a 25 mph zone. one douche in a black mercedes with loud pipes is racking up a history of calls to brpd because is dangerous. on further consideration, he is probably an ot baller.

when the camaro ran the stop sign and took out gordon meese recently, several of the neighbors told the cop "that's the a-hole who always speeds and runs the signs." the cop told the neighbors that he would have issued a different citation had there been a history of reports. who knows, maybe brpd really keeps a record.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:59 pm to
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The hate in this thread is real.



Wanting to see cyclists use a shared lane instead of a unnecessary dedicated lane is "hate"?

You know how ridiculous that sounds?

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there is friction whenever events or people keep drivers from driving as fast as they want.


Or perhaps people see how potentially destructive it is to have bicycle proponents creating powerful and organized enemies to save a dedicated lane they don't even need.....

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so, i don't think it is about that particular stretch of glenmore. i think it is about progress and the perception of going backwards


Perception isn't reality. Baton Rouge is only now starting to see the value in adding real bicycle infrastructure on major arteries where it's desperately needed.

I've ridden on Glenmore many times. It's a low speed residential street that should not have a dedicated lane. Pushing hard for it will be a drawn out, public pissing contest that will create enemies of cyclists out of people that otherwise wouldn't care. This is the wrong battle to pick especially as the city is about to start major expansions of their bike lane network....and in the end, the cyclists will lose their dedicated lane either way.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 6:11 pm
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

Glenmore isn't even the issue. I personally think they should get rid of the lane and let people park there. No reason a low speed residential road like that needs a bike lane. 

Just tired of the same old arguments from cyclist haters that have no basis in reality. It's just the old throw a bunch of accusations out there to deflect from the actual reason you don't want cycling, which is some perceived horrible inconvenience.


Exactly. It sounds to me like there is a conflict of interest and blame is automatically put on the cyclist because of what you said above. They are entitled, they break the law, etc.. But the only reason I even argue in this thread is because the residents seem to be the ones who feel entitled to park in the lane and are the ones breaking the law by doing so. Yet the bikers get called out for it. And I think it all stems from bike hate. But no one can admit it.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 6:21 pm to
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Glenmore isn't even the issue. I personally think they should get rid of the lane and let people park there. No reason a low speed residential road like that needs a bike lane.


That's the most reasonable outcome out of all of this nonsense.

So you recognize that the cyclist activists are making unreasonable demands but still came to this thread to complain residents who don't want bike lanes?
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 6:25 pm
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 6:47 pm to
What are the unreasonable demands? I honestly haven't seen where there is a residents dont want the lane, cyclists want to keep it argument. All I see is cyclists getting cops involved about the parking issue which caused residents to get pissed. Nothing about demands from cyclists.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2618 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:08 pm to
I agree the Glenmore thing is ridiculous. Any reasonable person could see the answer. Take away the bike lane so the residents can have their parking and the cyclist can just share the road. I wouldn't have even posted if the discussion would have stayed centered there.

My problem with any cycling discussion is how it always breaks down to cyclist should have insurance, they always break the law, they don't pay their share for roads, blah, blah, blah. We don't want special treatmemt. We simply want to ride on the road and not be injured, maimed or killed. Dedicated bike lanes would be wonderful and they are coming slowly. Until we have a perfect cycling utopia, we just want to not get killed when on our bikes.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21355 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:11 pm to
Get off that damned bike and get in a car.

BR needs more cars on the road!
Posted by torrey225
Member since Mar 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 8:56 am to
I have emails that say differently. I was a consultant at the time.
Posted by piratedude
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2009
2805 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

I have emails that say differently. I was a consultant at the time.


different than what? what did your email say?
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
33606 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:21 pm to
This is just one of many countless examples of why everyone dreams about moving out of Baton Rouge. If we didn't have the infrastructure and layout of Guatemala this wouldn't be a problem.

As much as I would love to pull a Darwin and drive through the biker pricks on river who don't use the levee, I can side with them this round
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38053 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:37 pm to
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quote:

he biker pricks on river who don't use the levee,


man are those assholes still out there? They are the sole reason I hate cyclists and have 0 sympathy for them.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:42 pm to
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I have emails that say differently. I was a consultant at the time.


I'm not going to hit my bullshite button but I very seriously doubt that you have emails pertaining to anything about Glenmore. At least not in any kind of official capacity and certainly not from the residents.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:43 pm to
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he biker pricks on river who don't use the levee,


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man are those assholes still out there? They are the sole reason I hate cyclists and have 0 sympathy for them.


. See, these are the anti-cycling sentiments I can get behind. I lived in Beau Pre and HATED these people. You want to ride river road out in the middle of nowhere, that's your own business. But when they decide to do it near campus where there's decently heavy traffic going 55 mph with almost negative shoulder, you have the right to call them an a-hole .
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
33606 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:45 pm to
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man are those assholes still out there? They are the sole reason I hate cyclists and have 0 sympathy for them.




It's pretty incredible how BR bikers that understand River is one of the last decent flowing roads still feel a sense of entitlement to ruin it for the rest of us.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13761 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:55 pm to
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then they tied a bike to a car, and used the bike to block the bike lane


Ok, that is a total dick move and would immediately put me on the side of the cyclists.
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
8616 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:40 am to
BR Business Report indicated yesterday that a resolution was near but gave no details. Anyone have the inside scoop on this?
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:57 am to
I am heading back into town for the holidays next week. I'm totally bringing my bike and cruising down Glenmore suited up like this.

Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
32589 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:09 am to
I'd like to see cops start issuing tickets for bikers not obeying traffic signals. You want the same rights to road? Abide by the rules everyone else does.

That said the bike lanes are a good thing. Residents of glen more need to get over themselves. Issuing tickets? Meh
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