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re: Best video yet of Delta airplane crashing in Canada and flipping

Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:40 am to
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
260 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:40 am to
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Have they been identified yet?


Will we even get the identities of the pilots since everyone survived?

Also, Canada. I assume they can just hide whatever they want for as long as they want and the population will just apologize for the inconvenience.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11184 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:41 am to
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When you copy and paste all these lengthy answers of yours, and almost every one of your answers is lengthy, why do you not at least attribute the source?


Nothing in my response was copied nor pasted.....
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
20893 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:41 am to
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no one is qualified unless they look just like you.


bullshite.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11184 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:52 am to
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Better equipment, better maintenance and better procedures and training put in place are the main drivers behind the increase in safety, not the gender or racial makeup of the crews.

That doesn’t change the fact that women and minorities are given a leg up over white men when it comes to hiring and even passing training. Which is inherently sexist and racist. So what you’re saying is that it’s okay to hire based on sex and race which means it must’ve been okay to discriminate against women and minorities in favor of white men.


I have no doubt that the reasons for increased safety has nothing to do with biological sex, gender nor race. That is my point exactly....I am not the one making the argument that DEI makes airlines less safe based on biological sex, gender or race....employee biological sex, gender nor race has no bearing on aniline safety....again, I am not the one claiming any of those three means anyone is unqualified, less qualified or qualified...they are meaningless as far as qualifications go. But far too many straight white men are convinced that they do indeed have something to do with qualifications.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:56 am to
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Any time a minority is hired you guys automatically say it's DEI


Some do, most dont.

Hiring a minority isnt DEI, hiring a minority simply because they are a minority is DEI.

Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2410 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:01 am to
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Also from that video from aircraft holding short for takeoff the CRJ touched down way too short on the runway they should have been landing about 800’-1000’ farther down


Why would landing short be an issue? Is it that in order land short, his descent rate would be higher than typical?

Seems one would as much runway beyond touchdown as you can get just in case.....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11184 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:54 am to
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Why does Delta set the minimum at 1500 hours?


FAA minimums for unrestricted ATP.

To all your gibberish and safety point, technology and CRM advancements are responsible for the increase in safety.



So Delta can't have higher standards than the FAA? Why? Is it remotely possible, again, that Delta is in better position to determine what is best for Delta than someone on the internet with no vested interest other than promoting the idiotic idea that airline safety is down because someone other than straight white men have been hired?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32593 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 11:14 am to
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But far too many straight white men are convinced that they do indeed have something to do with qualifications.


You are misrepresenting this.

Not all minorities are DWI hires who are not qualified for the job. But some of them are. Which undermines the achievements and qualifications of the minorities who actually are qualified.

Also we don’t actually know if this is pilot error either way.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 11:16 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28335 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 11:20 am to
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I’ve seen too many movies, I would’ve been hauling arse thinking the whole thing was about to blow.


Seeing too many movies is the reason I would have been casually walking away. The video someone would have been taking of me head-on would have been amazing when the huge black and orange fireball backlit me and I continued to walk unflinchingly toward the camera. The amount of posthumous clicks, likes, and shares would have been epic.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12142 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 11:33 am to
I love how pilots go into a mode while on the comms

Pilot watching plane crash: oh eff oh eff! No no no!
Pilot to tower sounding like a calm Peter Jennings with nightly news: “tower, uh you seeing this plane crash, two three”


So in this case aviate, film, communicate
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
49550 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 11:52 am to
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That’s 100% on the pilot. Have they been identified yet?

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Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14215 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 11:54 am to
This is very reminiscent of me playing a flying game as a 6 year old.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8714 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:00 pm to
I tend to think DEI creates more issues than what it solves.

However, the overwhelming reason lesser qualified, disinterested people attain almost any position they didn’t really “earn” is birth. They’re wealthy and/or connected. That will always get one to the front of the line — or back in line quickly frick up after frick up. I grew up in a family where you’re going to get chance after chance regardless and then still get poked into a good management position in a family company if you really frick up everything else. Everyone knows how it works. DEI or top of your class no way compares to a chat on your behalf from a big wig.

However, I can say that’s also why DEI creates the divisions it does. It’s not totally unfounded that white men without those connections could find themselves as the only ones without a leg up in certain situations.

This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 12:51 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17881 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:30 pm to
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Hiring a minority isnt DEI, hiring a minority simply because they are a minority is DEI.



Oh I agree here.

However everytime a minority is hired we see nothing but complaining about DEI as if the only capable males are white.

Yet we see sorry arse hires who are white males which we all think is trash and no one complains about that guy being hired because comfortability or favors.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:31 pm to
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However everytime a minority is hired we see nothing but complaining about DEI


Thats what happens when average people learn a new talking point. They misuse it until its worthless.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
1809 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:34 pm to
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However everytime a minority is hired we see nothing but complaining about DEI as if the only capable males are white.


Why do you think that is?
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Yet we see sorry arse hires who are white males which we all think is trash and no one complains about that guy being hired because comfortability or favors.


How many companies have policies in place to specifically cater to rich white boys? How many of them have entire departments committed to making sure more privileged white guys get hired? How many provide scholarships to the boss’s sons and nephews to get them through training programs?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
7952 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:24 pm to
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However everytime a minority is hired we see nothing but complaining about DEI as if the only capable males are white.


Like affirmative action and quotas that is a stigma created by DEI especially with the extreme form we have seen many in business and in govt pushing it since the summer of love.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
29819 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:02 pm to
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I’m thinking maybe a bad bypass line or worn out ball bearings. Small things can be catastrophic.


It’s all ball bearings nowadays.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8714 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:11 pm to
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How many companies have policies in place to specifically cater to rich white boys?




Why do you need a policy to promote something that's already running full tilt?

I'm not a fan DEI but anyone trying to argue that rich, connected people don't get pushed to front of every line (and jump right back up there if they frick up) are either blind or intentionally disingenuous.

One of the reasons, I personally choose to live on the other side of the country from my family is because all of their businesses have family and friends of family and sons of politicians etc etc etc that are not really qualified at all strewn throughout high level positions.

The problem with DEI is when it puts NOT connected white guys last in line for no other reason than race/gender. It makes no difference for the ones that a big wig can put in "a good word " for.



Posted by POCKET
Member since Nov 2011
2627 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:47 pm to
Just found out this morning that my sisters father in law was on the plane. Cant believe I just now found that out.

He is sore and shaken up from it, but otherwise fine.
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