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re: Best options for new NFL and NBA stadiums out of dangerous NOLA?
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:03 am to SuperflyLSU
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:03 am to SuperflyLSU
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The Seattle Pelicans
Do you know how to read?
Seattle is almost certainly getting an expansion franchise. Its one of the worst kept secrets in the NBA with multiple reporters openly talking about it.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:05 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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i suspect the majority of jets fans don't drive to games at all and just lol at saints fans. you think most saints fans are coming from the northshore or baton rouge? no chance
It's increasingly likely that the regional fans that do go to the game leave the stadium and return to their home towns without spending extra cash in what is becoming a more dangerous city. And more dangerous in places where tourists go.
And if the crime problem continues to go unchecked and the Saints continue to be a mediocre team.... fewer and fewer of them will be driving into Lafayette, Baton Rouge, and the northshore to attend a game at all.
The city needs to stress public safety in those core areas and then branch out to the rest of the city. Right now it's being neglected and people are noticing.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:07 am to Mufassa
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As if this is a pejorative. It’s like how they label people climate change “deniers”
So are these people called NOLA Violence "Deniers"?
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:09 am to goofball
New Orleans is dangerous but it was just as if not more dangerous in the 90s when we had Ditka.
I doubt crime affects the team location at all.
I doubt crime affects the team location at all.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:12 am to TopWaterTiger
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Both franchises will be out of LA within 5-10 years. NOLA will be part of the excuse/problem. Lets not forget the Saints made a serious run at leaving NOLA before Brees/Peyton era.
Saints have an opportunity in 2024-2025 to move. But there's the chance they may negotiate with the state for more investment in the dome in exchange for another bridge lease. Possible they may angle for a new facility entirely....and they might get it eventually.
It's a lot easier to support an NBA franchise than an NFL franchise. But also much easier to relocate an NBA team. If Memphis and OKC can support one, the New Orleans metro can as well. But I agree that they will start having attendance issues if the area around the Smoothie King center isn't carefully patrolled during games.
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 10:16 am
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:13 am to Napoleon
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New Orleans is dangerous but it was just as if not more dangerous in the 90s when we had Ditka.
City as a whole or the area around the dome, Canal Street, and the FQ?
It sure seemed more concentrated in other areas back then.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:21 am to dewster
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City as a whole or the area around the dome, Canal Street, and the FQ? It sure seemed more concentrated in other areas back then.
It was more concentrated with more than 2x the population of today. The FQ was locked down safe by the NOPD and the bars/restaurants that had detail officers.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:35 am to MrLSU
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It was more concentrated with more than 2x the population of today.
There weren't 750,000 people living in Orleans Parish in the 1990s. I doubt New Orleans ever had that big of a population. What a clown post this is.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:38 am to dewster
New Orleans criminals have a very different mindset than do criminals elsewhere, I find. In most other tourism cities, law enforcement really focus on protecting tourists. So, criminals avoid targeting tourists to keep the spotlight off of them.
However, New Orleans criminals are crazy violent, and it’s a small place so everyone knows everyone. Throw in the fact that New Orleans has a severely understaffed police department, a pro-criminal DA, pro-criminal Mayor, and pro-criminal judges and you have a recipe for criminals purposely targeting tourists because tourists’ families are less likely to retaliate with violence.
The problems in New Orleans are at every level. I think we need a state level solution. We need the state legislature to pass legislation reducing judge’s discretion in sentencing/setting bail for violent offenders and robbers. We need to force the DA to resign for corruption and malfeasance and replace them with a DA that will actually prosecute crime. The mayor must be removed from office by hook or by crook. Finally, NOPD must be bolstered with additional resources, reduced bureaucratic demand (eliminate the insane consent decrees), open up paid parking lot companies to liability for cars being broken into under their protection, and use state police to help increase patrols in tourism areas.
I will never understand Louisiana politicians’ obsession with murdering every goose laying golden eggs.
However, New Orleans criminals are crazy violent, and it’s a small place so everyone knows everyone. Throw in the fact that New Orleans has a severely understaffed police department, a pro-criminal DA, pro-criminal Mayor, and pro-criminal judges and you have a recipe for criminals purposely targeting tourists because tourists’ families are less likely to retaliate with violence.
The problems in New Orleans are at every level. I think we need a state level solution. We need the state legislature to pass legislation reducing judge’s discretion in sentencing/setting bail for violent offenders and robbers. We need to force the DA to resign for corruption and malfeasance and replace them with a DA that will actually prosecute crime. The mayor must be removed from office by hook or by crook. Finally, NOPD must be bolstered with additional resources, reduced bureaucratic demand (eliminate the insane consent decrees), open up paid parking lot companies to liability for cars being broken into under their protection, and use state police to help increase patrols in tourism areas.
I will never understand Louisiana politicians’ obsession with murdering every goose laying golden eggs.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:41 am to dewster
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Saints have an opportunity in 2024-2025 to move. But there's the chance they may negotiate with the state
They aren't moving
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:48 am to GumboPot
Too bad for this board the saints already signed an extension through 2035 with 4 five year extensions.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:56 am to kingbob
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New Orleans criminals have a very different mindset than do criminals elsewhere, I find. In most other tourism cities, law enforcement really focus on protecting tourists. So, criminals avoid targeting tourists to keep the spotlight off of them.
It's not so much the mindset of our criminals that's changed. It's that even our really shitty prior mayors used to make an effort to ensure they didn't constantly prey on tourist areas and areas like the Superdome during big events.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:10 am to Y.A. Tittle
Back in the 90s, most of these dudes wouldn't think of doing a thing in the French Quarter or areas like it, because NOPD would bust heads.
Now its easy prey.
Now its easy prey.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 1:00 pm to PP7 for heisman
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he overwhelming majority of the people telling the pelicans to move are not Pelicans fans
What? You think they’re fans of other NBA teams? The best thing if you’re a Laker or Celtic fan is the Pels stay in NOLA. Like Chris Paul and Anthony Davis, eventually Zion and the attractive roster players will force their way out or sign elsewhere once they can.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 1:41 pm to Fun Bunch
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Back in the 90s, most of these dudes wouldn't think of doing a thing in the French Quarter or areas like it, because NOPD would bust heads.
And the DA actually did some work. That’s a big key too.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 2:06 pm to glassman
New Orleans, proper, had about 450K back in the 1990s. Part of the problem is that a lot of these problems are happening in lots not adjacent to the Dome and further up Poydras off the street. Like the lot for the kid with the Sierra Denali happened back on Loyola and Julia the other side of the Benson Tower and the Hyatt complex. Not saying it's right, it is not but the people parking further up Poydras are taking a risk and this is not a new risk
Posted on 1/10/23 at 2:17 pm to USMEagles
quote:it's the root of a certain ideology that everything is just a little different inside city limits
There's nothing particularly special about Orleans compared to Jefferson or St. Tammany anymore.
Posted on 1/10/23 at 2:18 pm to GumboPot
How about we hire 1000 more cops and see what happens first?
Take any city, and give it a police department 1/3 of the size required and see what happens.
Take any city, and give it a police department 1/3 of the size required and see what happens.
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