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re: Best options for new NFL and NBA stadiums out of dangerous NOLA?

Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:03 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115968 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:03 am to
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The Seattle Pelicans


Do you know how to read?

Seattle is almost certainly getting an expansion franchise. Its one of the worst kept secrets in the NBA with multiple reporters openly talking about it.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16868 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:05 am to
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i suspect the majority of jets fans don't drive to games at all and just lol at saints fans. you think most saints fans are coming from the northshore or baton rouge? no chance



It's increasingly likely that the regional fans that do go to the game leave the stadium and return to their home towns without spending extra cash in what is becoming a more dangerous city. And more dangerous in places where tourists go.

And if the crime problem continues to go unchecked and the Saints continue to be a mediocre team.... fewer and fewer of them will be driving into Lafayette, Baton Rouge, and the northshore to attend a game at all.

The city needs to stress public safety in those core areas and then branch out to the rest of the city. Right now it's being neglected and people are noticing.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25365 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:07 am to
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As if this is a pejorative. It’s like how they label people climate change “deniers”



So are these people called NOLA Violence "Deniers"?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69110 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:09 am to
New Orleans is dangerous but it was just as if not more dangerous in the 90s when we had Ditka.

I doubt crime affects the team location at all.

Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25365 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:12 am to
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Both franchises will be out of LA within 5-10 years. NOLA will be part of the excuse/problem. Lets not forget the Saints made a serious run at leaving NOLA before Brees/Peyton era.



Saints have an opportunity in 2024-2025 to move. But there's the chance they may negotiate with the state for more investment in the dome in exchange for another bridge lease. Possible they may angle for a new facility entirely....and they might get it eventually.

It's a lot easier to support an NBA franchise than an NFL franchise. But also much easier to relocate an NBA team. If Memphis and OKC can support one, the New Orleans metro can as well. But I agree that they will start having attendance issues if the area around the Smoothie King center isn't carefully patrolled during games.
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 10:16 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25365 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:13 am to
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New Orleans is dangerous but it was just as if not more dangerous in the 90s when we had Ditka.



City as a whole or the area around the dome, Canal Street, and the FQ?

It sure seemed more concentrated in other areas back then.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25994 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:21 am to
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City as a whole or the area around the dome, Canal Street, and the FQ? It sure seemed more concentrated in other areas back then.


It was more concentrated with more than 2x the population of today. The FQ was locked down safe by the NOPD and the bars/restaurants that had detail officers.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116146 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:35 am to
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It was more concentrated with more than 2x the population of today.


There weren't 750,000 people living in Orleans Parish in the 1990s. I doubt New Orleans ever had that big of a population. What a clown post this is.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67116 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:38 am to
New Orleans criminals have a very different mindset than do criminals elsewhere, I find. In most other tourism cities, law enforcement really focus on protecting tourists. So, criminals avoid targeting tourists to keep the spotlight off of them.

However, New Orleans criminals are crazy violent, and it’s a small place so everyone knows everyone. Throw in the fact that New Orleans has a severely understaffed police department, a pro-criminal DA, pro-criminal Mayor, and pro-criminal judges and you have a recipe for criminals purposely targeting tourists because tourists’ families are less likely to retaliate with violence.

The problems in New Orleans are at every level. I think we need a state level solution. We need the state legislature to pass legislation reducing judge’s discretion in sentencing/setting bail for violent offenders and robbers. We need to force the DA to resign for corruption and malfeasance and replace them with a DA that will actually prosecute crime. The mayor must be removed from office by hook or by crook. Finally, NOPD must be bolstered with additional resources, reduced bureaucratic demand (eliminate the insane consent decrees), open up paid parking lot companies to liability for cars being broken into under their protection, and use state police to help increase patrols in tourism areas.

I will never understand Louisiana politicians’ obsession with murdering every goose laying golden eggs.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115968 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:41 am to
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Saints have an opportunity in 2024-2025 to move. But there's the chance they may negotiate with the state




They aren't moving
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33116 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:48 am to
Too bad for this board the saints already signed an extension through 2035 with 4 five year extensions.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101474 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:56 am to
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New Orleans criminals have a very different mindset than do criminals elsewhere, I find. In most other tourism cities, law enforcement really focus on protecting tourists. So, criminals avoid targeting tourists to keep the spotlight off of them.



It's not so much the mindset of our criminals that's changed. It's that even our really shitty prior mayors used to make an effort to ensure they didn't constantly prey on tourist areas and areas like the Superdome during big events.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115968 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 11:10 am to
Back in the 90s, most of these dudes wouldn't think of doing a thing in the French Quarter or areas like it, because NOPD would bust heads.

Now its easy prey.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
2443 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 1:00 pm to
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he overwhelming majority of the people telling the pelicans to move are not Pelicans fans


What? You think they’re fans of other NBA teams? The best thing if you’re a Laker or Celtic fan is the Pels stay in NOLA. Like Chris Paul and Anthony Davis, eventually Zion and the attractive roster players will force their way out or sign elsewhere once they can.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 1:41 pm to
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Back in the 90s, most of these dudes wouldn't think of doing a thing in the French Quarter or areas like it, because NOPD would bust heads.



And the DA actually did some work. That’s a big key too.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27570 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 2:06 pm to
New Orleans, proper, had about 450K back in the 1990s. Part of the problem is that a lot of these problems are happening in lots not adjacent to the Dome and further up Poydras off the street. Like the lot for the kid with the Sierra Denali happened back on Loyola and Julia the other side of the Benson Tower and the Hyatt complex. Not saying it's right, it is not but the people parking further up Poydras are taking a risk and this is not a new risk
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47664 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 2:17 pm to
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There's nothing particularly special about Orleans compared to Jefferson or St. Tammany anymore.
it's the root of a certain ideology that everything is just a little different inside city limits
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
1653 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 2:18 pm to
How about we hire 1000 more cops and see what happens first?

Take any city, and give it a police department 1/3 of the size required and see what happens.
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