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re: Being forced to provide a service
Posted on 1/4/18 at 3:49 pm to LSUBoo
Posted on 1/4/18 at 3:49 pm to LSUBoo
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In some places, the market would weed out the bigots. In other places, they would flourish.
So a “bigot” is just someone who wants to take their family to somewhere nice without having Kashera and Trayvon making a scene?
Am I going to be compelled to appreciate “culcha” next?
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 3:51 pm to jlovel7
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Being forced to provide a service
Blow me.
That's not a request.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 3:51 pm to Rouge
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You highly underestimate the socioeconomic divides in the country
The majority of our residential infrastructure in this country is based on being separated from undesirables
which is why it wouldn't really be a problem since most business already segregate themselves just by price or location
Posted on 1/4/18 at 3:52 pm to High C
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Blow me.
That's not a request.
Sweet. I can finally make an awesome #metoo social media post about this.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 3:52 pm to fr33manator
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So a “bigot” is just someone who wants to take their family to somewhere nice without having Kashera and Trayvon making a scene?
Am I going to be compelled to appreciate “culcha” next?
Take this strawman bullshite elsewhere
Posted on 1/4/18 at 3:58 pm to keakar
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there are 1000 other places to do business with.
no one should EVER be forced to provide a service or function against their will for any reason.
this and only this
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:02 pm to jlovel7
I was just raised to live the principle of not forcing people to do for you what they don't want to do. Isn't that just basic in not being a butthole?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:04 pm to jlovel7
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:08 pm to jlovel7
I'm just waiting for the shitstorm when someone goes to a Muslim bakery and wants a cake with the Star of David on it, or someone asks for a cake depicting Mohammed. 
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:09 pm to jlovel7
It's all about tolerance and if you disagree we will DESTROY YOU AT ALL COST because we are the party of tolerance!
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:11 pm to jlovel7
That's the beauty of capitalism and an open market place, If one cake shop owner is being a dickhead, there's bound to be another one around the corner that would be more than happy to take the money
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:15 pm to TigersSEC2010
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Absolutely. The reality of this is that if anyone is stupid enough to not serve someone for being black or white or whatever, the market will take over and run them out of business. Let the market decide the rules, not the government.
Not exactly the same, but...
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:18 pm to jlovel7
If a private business owner wants to hand a big flashing sign outside that says “No ______” (insert race religion sex or whatever) the. That should be their right. Let the market dictate if they fail or succeed.
As a side note, “______ only” groups and areas are gaining popularity and supported by the left as long as it’s done by anyone except white male christians.
As a side note, “______ only” groups and areas are gaining popularity and supported by the left as long as it’s done by anyone except white male christians.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:42 pm to jlovel7
In what used to be America, a business owner could decide that they didn't want to serve someone, and they had that right.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:47 pm to Salmon
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should be able to refuse everybody
I'm fine with this too, but we also must be fine if/when a place is put out of business due to terrible Yelp/Facebook/etc. reviews after denying service to someone.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:52 pm to fr33manator
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I guess that means if I go up to a Black lesbian baker and demand she make a cake of some Klansmen beating up a bunch of dykes, she has to do it, right?
Surely you're smart enough to know that an individual's civil liberties stop when they infringe on another's right to free speech, no?
You can be a Klansman and demand she sell you a cake, but you can't make her put something on the cake that she doesn't want to put.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:54 pm to High C
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Not exactly the same, but...
Not exactly? How about not any where near the same. Chick Fil A didn't refuse service to anyone. The CEO had an opinion. If the CEO had refused to serve chicken to gays I am pretty sure the response would have been different.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:56 pm to fillmoregandt
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That's the beauty of capitalism and an open market place, If one cake shop owner is being a dickhead, there's bound to be another one around the corner that would be more than happy to take the money
What if there isn't? What if you're the only gas station for 60 miles and you refuse to sell your products to a particular group? It's terribly unlikely another store will open up in those situations.
I still think business owners should be allowed to do as they see fit, but the idea that the free market will fix it isn't exactly true in many areas.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:56 pm to keakar
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the ONLY thing the government or local law should be allowed to be involved in forcing people to do is pay taxes
Hell No !!!!!
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:57 pm to slackster
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but you can't make her put something on the cake that she doesn't want to put.
Does this include two groomsmen or two brides?
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