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re: BCBS declining payment because of "other insurance"

Posted on 1/6/20 at 7:38 am to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51332 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 7:38 am to
If you have secondary insurance, BCBS needs to coordinate so the benefits are correctly processed.

This really isn't a big deal.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 7:40 am to
quote:

If you have secondary insurance, BCBS
no she has secondary BBC
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17225 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 7:41 am to
To paraphrase a sinister politician: Somebody coded something.

There's like 10,000,000 alpha numerical codes to put in the computer blanks that determines reimbursement. 10010A is different from 10100A and from 10001A.

Go ahead and try typing out those about 30 times day each and see how many times you make an error. Insurer (BCBS) only knows what the code input says though.

Based on the "co-pay" and "other insurer" statement I'd bet THAT is the coding error. Some mistake on co-pay/co-insurance code.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90776 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 7:42 am to
quote:

think it's more sinister than that. I am thinking it is something done on purpose to make their customers jump thru hoops and they get to keep their money a little longer.


Naw, some people don’t want the headache of being on the phone to clear it up and will just pay the bill if it’s only like 100 dollars or something
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3271 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 7:49 am to
Happened to me for services rendered in Sept. I think they’re low on cash and trying to through a tough spot or something.

Go online and fill out a form saying you don’t have other coverage. They will pay.
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
6621 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 7:50 am to
Dear interwebz,

Woe is me. I’m whining like a woman. I must incessantly bitch rather than solve a simple mistake.

-Bedhog
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4097 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 7:52 am to
In writing. Phone calls might as well not have happened in the modern era.
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
7203 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 7:53 am to
Determination is part of something called Coordination of Benefits (COB).

An example of determination from a carrier.

In this situation BCBS has determined they're secondary to some other carrier. That EOB from the provider is for what they got back (and not in this case) from BCBS. That would mean they would have received payment from another carrier. If BCBS ends up being secondary, the provider only gets the two payments up to the allowable amount. They aren't "double dipping".

You still may not be on the hook for anything more. Ask the provider if they received payment from another carrier. If not, go back to BCBS and contest and tell them you didn't have other coverage (i.e. covered under a family plan if you're under 26, or under your wife's plan if you're married).


This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 7:59 am
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97679 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 7:55 am to
Quit thinking so much.....it’s not working out well for you
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58374 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 7:59 am to
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seems shitty thing to do since they have been getting my money on time for over 20 years.



Say how long you’ve been a customer again.

You should know that in today’s time no one cares how long you or anyone else has been a customer. We are all equally worthless to them.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28833 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:01 am to
quote:

My State Farm auto insurance



Property and Casualty is a whole different animal then health. Just call BCBS. You have spent more time posting in this thread then you will on the phone with BCBS. Just be glad it's not Humana.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8342 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:02 am to
That’s a legit possibility. The other legit possibility, that you need to really hope isn’t the case, is that someone stole your identity and opened an alternate insurance account in your name. Just hope it’s an evil insurance company and not an evil rando from god knows where that you have to deal with.
Posted by Bedhog
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2019
3741 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:21 am to
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How bout you call BC and straighten it out?


I tried but their customer service was not available at the time. I just got off the phone with them. They said my COB wasn't updated which is why my claim was denied.

Lady told me this is required by "Federal Law every 2 years" I asked her what federal law? She said she had no clue
Posted by Beachtiger
Bomba Shack
Member since Apr 2007
4134 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:35 am to
Had a 4 day hospital stay this time last year. On the 3rd day the hospital business manager informed that BCBS had denied me coverage for the stay etc. Had to call from hospital bed to BCBS to clear up the COB. I was real happy with BCBS.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11895 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:39 am to
Are you 65 or older? They may be talking about medicare/medicaid.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42874 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:42 am to
Just resubmit it
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52150 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:43 am to
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It’s just a simple billing error.
that will take a few weeks to clear up
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:45 am to
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
3355 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:49 am to
Not sure what rock you've been living under or why you may have just been lucky enough to avoid it, but I've been filling those forms out for BCBS for many years now.
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