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re: Baton Rouge council OKs $1.7 million purchase of land in Rouzan for new library branch
Posted on 11/16/18 at 2:50 pm to AlonsoWDC
Posted on 11/16/18 at 2:50 pm to AlonsoWDC
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Shut it down.
The most OT post ever.
AIN'T NEED NO MORE BOOKS, PAAAAAWWWWWWLL.
i think fall's underlying argument is probably a little too complex for a simple fella like you
Posted on 11/16/18 at 2:51 pm to AlonsoWDC
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Shut it down. The most OT post ever. AIN'T NEED NO MORE BOOKS, PAAAAAWWWWWWLL.
Well, let's just build 100 libraries. Let's put one on every corner
Posted on 11/16/18 at 2:54 pm to Klark Kent
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there are exception areas for sure, but yes, the better schools in Houston are in the suburbs where they created their own ISDs. HISD is a shite show for the most part.
So in order to get the best public education for your kids you have to move out of the city and into the burbs.
Sounds a lot like Baton Rouge. Although I'm sure the average Houston suburban ISD is better than the average Baton Rouge one.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 2:56 pm to CarRamrod
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yep. but the ISDs are an unfair comparison. the culture "5 hours to the west" is different than the culture in the BR public school system. Thats what certain areas of the
I believe everyone involved knows that children that do not have parents that care about education as a whole are not going to do as well in school as children who have parents that care about education and stay on their kids to learn.
What school officials want to have you believe is that they can overcome this enormous issue if you raise school taxes so they can give teachers pay raises, build new schools, repair schools, and provide better discipline which will not fix the basic problem.
EBR went this route twenty years ago and scores are still bad and schools are still failing.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 2:59 pm to LSUBoo
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Sounds a lot like Baton Rouge. Although I'm sure the average Houston suburban ISD is better than the average Baton Rouge one.
Mudminnow knows this subject backwards and forwards, but the short answer is yes.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:03 pm to Klark Kent
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Mudminnow knows this subject backwards and forwards
Yeah he works it into every post in every thread.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:05 pm to LSUBoo
yeah, i didn't want to out right say it a page back, but he's preaching to the choir trying to sell me on Texas education vs Louisiana education.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:16 pm to Klark Kent
Klark Kent would your wife be able to point us in the right direction of comparing ISDs in Houston area and baton Rouge and suburbs.
I have no statistical information regarding the quality of education. I have talked to many from Louisiana here in NW Houston. Basically all their kids had to have a tutor in several subjects for the first year to get caught up and that's coming from Zachary, Prarieville, etc.. Two of my neighbors are teachers and often said same thing and some of the private school kids in Louisiana needed tutors. Many don't believe that but just what I've been told. My oldest is 4 and in pre-K so don't have much to compare.
I have no statistical information regarding the quality of education. I have talked to many from Louisiana here in NW Houston. Basically all their kids had to have a tutor in several subjects for the first year to get caught up and that's coming from Zachary, Prarieville, etc.. Two of my neighbors are teachers and often said same thing and some of the private school kids in Louisiana needed tutors. Many don't believe that but just what I've been told. My oldest is 4 and in pre-K so don't have much to compare.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:18 pm to Mudminnow
The private schools here aren't any better than the top surrounding public schools.
I went from EBR public schools to the Houston suburbs without a problem, but that was 30 years ago.
I went from EBR public schools to the Houston suburbs without a problem, but that was 30 years ago.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:27 pm to Mudminnow
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Klark Kent would your wife be able to point us in the right direction of comparing ISDs in Houston area and baton Rouge and suburbs.
I have no statistical information regarding the quality of education. I have talked to many from Louisiana here in NW Houston. Basically all their kids had to have a tutor in several subjects for the first year to get caught up and that's coming from Zachary, Prarieville, etc.. Two of my neighbors are teachers and often said same thing and some of the private school kids in Louisiana needed tutors. Many don't believe that but just what I've been told. My oldest is 4 and in pre-K so don't have much to compare.
i can ask. but i doubt she would have access to that type of data. she isn't in an administrative position in the ISDs she works for. She teaches AVID (college prep) and sponsors Student Council.
but i don't doubt that there are some children from EBR and surrounding area schools that would need tutoring when moving to a good Houston area ISD. (not HISD).
I've met a few of her top ranked kids, extremely intelligent individuals who i have no doubt will succeed in college and whatever career they so choose.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 4:24 pm to Brummy
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No one spends money on libraries like Baton Rouge
The Goodwood library is awesome. I'm not sure why the city needs to give that crook Spinosa any money though.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 5:45 pm to Klark Kent
Do Texas counties have a plethora of libraries?
Posted on 11/16/18 at 6:28 pm to doubleb
Doubled, I don't think so. Most are connected to college campuses free for the public to use or attached to a museum or other venue. I will need to look into that. But I haven't seen many stand alone.
They have a bunch of classes offered for the public through the library but may be at a learning center or educational complex.
They have a bunch of classes offered for the public through the library but may be at a learning center or educational complex.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 6:31 pm to athenslife101
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It’s pretty well known that electronic reading is absolutely horrible for information retention
Yet, school systems are doing away with books and moving to chrome books
This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 11/16/18 at 6:49 pm to CarRamrod
$1.7 million for the land
$3.4 million probably for the building
$1.0 million per year probably for a few dozen employees, ~ $5.0 million over the first several years
$0.2 million per year in utilities and maintenance, ~ $1.0 million over the first several years
Add that all up and you get over $11 million for a library... you could buy an awful lot of smart phones (20,000+) and give them to people so they could have access to the internet and find literally anything that they’d find at the library.
But people wouldn’t get their kickbacks that way.
$3.4 million probably for the building
$1.0 million per year probably for a few dozen employees, ~ $5.0 million over the first several years
$0.2 million per year in utilities and maintenance, ~ $1.0 million over the first several years
Add that all up and you get over $11 million for a library... you could buy an awful lot of smart phones (20,000+) and give them to people so they could have access to the internet and find literally anything that they’d find at the library.
But people wouldn’t get their kickbacks that way.
This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 11/16/18 at 6:51 pm to CarRamrod
The world needs another library like it needs another hole in its head
Posted on 11/16/18 at 7:01 pm to CarRamrod
I love these “libraries are stupid” threads from people who never use our libraries and so never see the throngs of people that do use them.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 7:06 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I love these “libraries are stupid” threads from people who never use our libraries and so never see the throngs of people that do use them
BR already has a bunch of good libraries. Why do we need to pay for more while usage is declining? There aren't many places in the city where you are more than a few miles from one now.
This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 11/16/18 at 7:42 pm to fallguy_1978
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I'd be good with us having 3 or 4 but we have like 15
For shits and giggles I looked at some other municipalities and their populations.
Baton Rouge (EBR Parish - 440,171): 14 branches
Mobile (Mobile County - 412,992): 9 branches
Birmingham (Jefferson County - 658,466): 19 branches
Houston (Harris County - 4,092,459): 34 branches
Austin (Travis County - 1,024,266): 23 branches
Jackson (Hinds County - 245,285): 14 branches
NOLA (Orleans Parish - 343,829): 14 branches
Lake Charles (Calcasieu Parish - 192,768): 13 branches
The bigger cities have higher population density and consequently likely have larger branches, so a better metric would have been land area.. but that was way too much work on my phone.
Posted on 11/16/18 at 9:52 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I'm not anti library, but I question whether we need so many.
If you keep given the library board more and more they are going to create ways to spend more and more. They will never tell you enough is enough.
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I love these “libraries are stupid” threads from people who never use our libraries and so never see the throngs of people that do use them.
I'm not anti library, but I question whether we need so many.
If you keep given the library board more and more they are going to create ways to spend more and more. They will never tell you enough is enough.
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