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At what point is the juice not worth the squeeze? Economic impact of a lockdown
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:37 pm
This is harsh and cold blooded I know ( I have a 88 year old grandmother) but should we do irreparable damage to our economy to save 20K senior citizens (just a random number I made up). If what we’ve done already isn’t enough then what? Shutdown the country completely? That just can’t happen. Old people die every year from the flu, yes this might turn out to be worse but what else can be done without butt fricking us all.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:47 pm to BOSCEAUX
I agree with you, if we took this approach of complete shutdown every year the global economy would be in the shitter. More people would die of starvation, lack of medical supplies, crime rate increases (due to correlation between poverty and violet crime) from unemployment than the virus would ever kill.
It's overreaction, it's panic, it's extreme, it's fricking insane. Bookmark it, and quote me on it in a year.
It's overreaction, it's panic, it's extreme, it's fricking insane. Bookmark it, and quote me on it in a year.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:48 pm to BOSCEAUX
Using your logic, why should we care about Sickle Cell or AIDS?
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:49 pm to BOSCEAUX
quote:It's ok, 90% of the numbers are made up on the spot 65% of the time. And 75% of the time it works every time.
(just a random number I made up).
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:49 pm to BOSCEAUX
I said the same, we should go about our normal lives and do our best to avoid unnecessary contact with others but don't shut down the economy. People die, nothing you can do about it. It sucks but sometimes the world needs a population thinning
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:49 pm to vuvuzela
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It's overreaction, it's panic, it's extreme, it's fricking insane. Bookmark it, and quote me on it in a year.
How do you intend to prove that the actions currently taken are not responsible for any future nothing burger-ness with regard to this virus?
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:49 pm to BOSCEAUX
It's not just about saving the olds. We need to slow the spread of it, even if it's not fatal to the vast majority. The long this virus lingers, the higher probability it mutates and becomes more resistant to possible treatments and more harmful to those infected.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:49 pm to Dominate308
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Using your logic, why should we care about Sickle Cell or AIDS?
Sickle Cell is genetic and AIDS is completely avoidable.
So, we shouldn’t care much.
Not sure your point.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:49 pm to BOSCEAUX
yeah, I can’t imagine what those who work in sales or own a small business are going to do. how long can they afford to just shite down?
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:50 pm to Dominate308
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Using your logic, why should we care about Sickle Cell or AIDS?
Can you give us a hint?
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:52 pm to BOSCEAUX
It's more a question over if we want those seniors to suffer unnecessarily. If this thing spreads quickly in a community, it can overwhelm a hospital to the point where those that need treatment may not get it, and they're left to suffer.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:52 pm to LNCHBOX
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How do you intend to prove that the actions currently taken are not responsible for any future nothing burger-ness with regard to this virus?
I'm not saying that these actions aren't helping prevent it. In fact, I believe that they are doing a lot to prevent the spread. But at what cost? Wait until the shite hits the fan because the unemployment rate jumps 3% in a quarter, and the poverty rate increases by even more than that. I agree that these actions are preventing deaths from this virus, but in the long run the economic damage it will cause if we keep shutting everything down will cause more death and misery than the virus ever would.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:53 pm to Dominate308
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Using your logic, why should we care about Sickle Cell or AIDS?
What?? Scientists took unprecedented approaches to HIV but we never shutdown the country for it.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:53 pm to BOSCEAUX
This is the first step to stripping away our freedoms.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:54 pm to vuvuzela
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I'm not saying that these actions aren't helping prevent it
You don't know just how bad this could be without these actions though. So there is nothing that will convince you that this wasn't overreaction or necessary
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:54 pm to The Nino
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We need to slow the spread of it, even if it's not fatal to the vast majority.
This needs to be done so our healthcare system isn't totally overwhelmed by this. When that happens more people will die because they simply won't be able to get the life saving medical interventions they need.
We only have so many ICU beds. And...many ICUs were already close to full anyways from the usual things that keep them busy this time of year.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:55 pm to The Nino
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It's not just about saving the olds. We need to slow the spread of it, even if it's not fatal to the vast majority. The long this virus lingers, the higher probability it mutates and becomes more resistant to possible treatments and more harmful to those infected.
You can say that about regular influenza it mutates constantly but we don’t come to a grinding halt every winter and a shite ton of people not all old die from it every year. Think about that.
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