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re: Are there still people here who think marijuana should be illegal?

Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:29 am to
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:29 am to
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If you make a stupid decision, like driving drunk, and kill someone, it should be a minimum, manditory, 20 year sentence. Multiple DWI/DUIs prior? Minimum 30 years.
I don't agree with mandatory minimums. And we already have a legal process that deals with vehicular homicide. I do agree that the penalties should be stiffer though. But that's something that's handled during sentencing.
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As for taking licenses, unless you are going to somehow bar them from buying a car, or borrowing one from a buddy, taking a license does nothing. People drive without licenses already. It's illegal to hunt without a license, but people do it.
So how does using the court system as a debtor's prison help this at all? You're still not addressing the actual problem.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 11:31 am
Posted by the paradigm
Moon Township, PA
Member since Sep 2017
5417 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:30 am to
I’ve never smoked in my life. I don’t care if it’s legal; I just think it’s trashy.
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:30 am to
Not only are you way off base on all of these arguments, popular science actually argues for many medical benefits of CBD and other marijuana derivatives. But you can continue to live your life in ignorance while the world passes by you.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 11:31 am
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:32 am to
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So how does using the court system as a debtor's prison help this at all? You're still not addressing the actual problem.


Neither are you.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:35 am to
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Slow drivers in the fast lane are already enough of a problem. Don't need any more.


in my youth many many years ago, i spent endless hours driving "anywhere" just to have a private "safe" place to smoke my weed.

if it was legal i would have much prefered to stay home and smoke it so legalizing will most likely cause a "few" more slow drivers but its not anything you would notice and would in most cases reduce the amount of people on the road since when people are high they dont like to do anything or go anywhere.

so in reality it could make driving in traffic easier for you
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13057 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:38 am to
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I don't agree with mandatory minimums. And we already have a legal process that deals with vehicular homicide. I do agree that the penalties should be stiffer though. But that's something that's handled during sentencing.


When the minimum sentence is 5 years for vehicular manslaughter, the legal process is failing.

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So how does using the court system as a debtor's prison help this at all? You're still not addressing the actual problem.


Neither are you. How do you make someone follow a law if the consequences don't scare them? Taking a license does nothing to stop someone from driving under the influence of drugs and alcohol. Throw their arse in jail.

Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7882 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:46 am to
As someone who grew up in the 60s, I went through my share of lids. My problem is not with “recreational” use, say in the home. But when an additional stimulant is legalized, people abuse it, get out on the road and endanger other people.
As a 60+ year old, I have now lost my share of friends who died as a result of drugs and/or alcohol. That makes me sad. They were good people, many well-educated, had good careers but just couldn’t handle their addictions. Some people can handle things, some can’t. It’s the ones that can’t that cause the damage.
I like a cold beer, a good glass of wine and may fire one up if the opportunity presents itself. But I can handle it. Some can’t.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:47 am to
So then you criminalize the misuse of it...

Prohibition is not the answer.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:52 am to
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supporters who mistakenly think it’s a miracle elixir with abosultly zero drawbacks, risks, or side effects.


Nobody thinks that, that's dumb. But the fact that it doesn't cure cancer doesn't mean it should be illegal.


This is the argument that the DEA is pushing for kratom: "people say it cures opioid withdrawals, there's no evidence that it does so it should be illegal", it's nonsense.


yes, there are ... they will argue driving while high doesn't make you impaired ... they will argue it's ok to walk around toking in public since it's their right, etc ... they look on it as a culture/way of life ... most rational folk don't think it should still be criminalized, but there's a decent percentage that think it is, in fact, a miracle drug that has zero drawbacks ...
Posted by SaturdayTraditions
Down Seven Bridges Rd
Member since Sep 2015
3383 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:53 am to
Marijuana killed my father and raped my mother.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29646 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 12:25 pm to
Yes it should definitely be illegal. It's bad for society. Kids and young people should spend their time focusing on being productive and learning things like math and science or music theory, not killing brain cells and playing video games/eating taco bell.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95097 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 12:56 pm to
Well, for one, teenagers willget their hands on it and teen usage will skyrocket. What about the children? That’s been beaten into our heads for ten years now!


Oh, wait
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5634 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:34 pm to
Until they can test for usage in a certain time period like you can if someone is intoxicated by alcohol then it shouldn’t be legalized.

I don’t want people driving or operating equipment impaired.

Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4764 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:48 pm to
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Why pot should be illegal: 1. 1 joint puts the same amount of tar in your lungs as 20 cigarettes 2. It does cause cancer ( it messes with your receptors and can turn one of them on for cancer in non academic language 3. The smell of smoking or growing just stinks horrible 4. It is addictive ( if you claim it's not lets ask all those people who just can't stop smoking it) 5. It does irreversible damage to your brain. (It slows your brain down)


Do you have sources for your assertions here?
Posted by deNYEd
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2007
9703 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:49 pm to
By that dumbass reasoning why not just make taco bell and video games illegal as well?
Posted by deNYEd
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2007
9703 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:49 pm to
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Until they can test for usage in a certain time period like you can if someone is intoxicated by alcohol then it shouldn’t be legalized.


already created
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
9011 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:51 pm to
My parents are still iffy on it's legalization. They're older and retired. Biggest reason being what they were traditionally taught for decades They'll quietly admit they don't see much problem with it.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4764 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:53 pm to
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Why should it be legal?


Ahh- I see you prefer to have everything illegal unless it is specifically made legal. What a drab life that must be.

I much prefer the US perspective on laws. Everything is permitted unless it is specifically restricted. Life is much more colorful and interesting that way. Innovation prospers, too.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29646 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:54 pm to
You seem pretty emotional about this topic and seem to struggle with logic. Are you an addict?
Posted by deNYEd
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2007
9703 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 1:59 pm to
I have a problem with people looking to infringe on freedoms based on asinine assertations.
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