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re: Are there actually people that believe Michael Jackson didnt mess with kids?
Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:57 pm to mikelbr
Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:57 pm to mikelbr
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One just has to look at the Baylor Frat Boy that the public is crucifying for the plea deal. He settled for a very light sentence to be done with it. But the public wants blood from the Fratster and the Judge without taking 5 minutes to realize the bitch made up half the story and the DA has stated repeatedly they have a shitty case against him.
exactly
not to mention MJ had numerous opportunities to settle out of court. His attorneys tried to get him to do just that. But he refused for a long time.
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 1:58 pm to Malefic Runt
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What a strange world we live in. You practically need to have a signed affidavit to have sex with a grown arse woman these days. Yet a man with ferris wheels and giraffes in his yard can give little kids alcohol and climb into bed with them
well this was in the 90s. I have a feeling this would go much differently in today's climate.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:00 pm to Malefic Runt
He was beaten and abused his whole childhood and then chemically castrated and fed copious drugs.
I don't know if he ever touched those kids but his life is a brutally tragic story.
I don't know if he ever touched those kids but his life is a brutally tragic story.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:02 pm to JodyPlauche
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If the authorities raided your home, properties, and had access to all of your computers how long do you think it would take them to find our your sexual preferences? Not long.
When the prosecution used Husler Barely Legal in the MJ trial to show MJ was a pedophile it was stupid. They raided Neverland and they found Hustlers in his private bath room.
This tells me he was Beating It to adult women.
Plus I also read the grand jury transcript and its a joke as well.
This is all supposition, not fact. It's your feelings after reading certain things. Simply because there was Hustler's in the bathroom, he automatically was beating it to adult women? That's not fact.
You read the grand jury transcript and thought it was a joke?
That's not fact. Your opinion only. You don't have any first hand knowledge of the kids, or Michael Jackson. None.
A few facts:
- As a grown man, 40's and 50's, he threw overnight house parties for children.
- He admits to sleeping in the same bed as the children.
- Children accused him of molestation.
- To avoid trial, he paid out millions of dollars to the accusers.
Those are facts.
I'm not sure he was a pedophile. In the very least, he lacked judgment, and should not have been sleeping with children. I guess I'm surprised to see you writing this. As a survivor of abuse, I would guess you would be offended by others dismissing your charges of molestation simply based on their opinions. I get your being skeptical, but completely dismissing them as false? Honestly surprising to me.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:05 pm to CarRamrod
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The dude had the mind of a kid, he was never allowed to grow up/.
Yeah I think he was a weird dude who wanted to hang out with kids but didn’t understand why that was weird.
I really don’t think he was banging kids.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:06 pm to Festus
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He admits to sleeping in the same bed as the children
He admitted to "sharing" his bed while sleeping on the floor with another adult in the room as well. That's the FACT.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:09 pm to Malefic Runt
He didn’t.
Next.
Next.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:19 pm to JodyPlauche
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He admitted to "sharing" his bed while sleeping on the floor with another adult in the room as well. That's the FACT.
Are you denying that he ever slept in bed with children? Seriously. Are you being deceitful, or sincerely don't know? He has admitted himself to sleeping in bed with children.
Jackson says he slept with children
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He denies sleeping in the same bed as Gavin but adds: 'I have slept in a bed with many children.
You sure about your "FACTS"?
Anyway, not trying to get in a pissing match with you. I'm sincerely surprised that someone who went through what you went through, not knowing ANY party involved, would automatically dismiss claims of molestation, across the board. I honestly don't know if I believe he was, but I would never dismiss every allegation and factually state it didn't happen.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:24 pm to Festus
I was specifically talk about the quote with Gavin because that's who accused him of molestation.
I did not take into consideration children who never claimed he molested them. Had no reason too.
I did not take into consideration children who never claimed he molested them. Had no reason too.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:28 pm to JodyPlauche
OK, well I agree with you, he never admitted to sleeping with Gavin.
But he has admitted to sleeping with children in his bed. And the reason I think it should be taken into consideration, there's an allegation that he did with someone, and molested them. Him admitting to sleeping in bed with children, in the very least, reveals he sees nothing wrong with being a grown man in his 40's or 50's, sleeping with children in his bed. That are not family members.
But he has admitted to sleeping with children in his bed. And the reason I think it should be taken into consideration, there's an allegation that he did with someone, and molested them. Him admitting to sleeping in bed with children, in the very least, reveals he sees nothing wrong with being a grown man in his 40's or 50's, sleeping with children in his bed. That are not family members.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:30 pm to Festus
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in a pissing match with you. I'm sincerely surprised that someone who went through what you went through, not knowing ANY party involved, would automatically dismiss claims of molestation, across the board.
Trust me I paid close attention to both cases. Neither case had the MO of pedophilia. Every person I have spoken to who works in the field of sexual violence thinks he was not guilty as well.
Gavin alleged he was molested after that footage aired. That's not how pedophiles work. They try to hide it.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:33 pm to Nguyener
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He was beaten and abused his whole childhood and then chemically castrated
Where are people seeing the evidence to back this up? Or where are the legit claims floating out there? I'd like to read something about it
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:35 pm to cas4t
quote:I'm not talking about kids. I'm talking about the members of his own household staff who witnessed these things. The defense tried to play it up as them being disgruntled, but there were too many of them.
Through the trial they interviewed dozens of kids and none of them said they'd been molested.
Face it. Dude was a pedo. He paid a kid hush money years before and clearly had established a pattern of doing so ever since. Anyway, the fact that many kids weren't molested does not mean that no one was. That's stupid.
quote:LITERALLY wrong.
Literally it was only this one kid
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:42 pm to JodyPlauche
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Gavin alleged he was molested after that footage aired. That's not how pedophiles work. They try to hide it.
Gavin was not the sole accuser of molestation. There have been more allegations.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:49 pm to Festus
I just wonder how much money he paid out that we don't know about. There have been people stepping out since his death claiming this.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:50 pm to 777Tiger
some people still believe Hilary is innocent
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:52 pm to Festus
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Gavin was not the sole accuser of molestation. There have been more allegations.
True. Jordy in 1993 which has been discussed earlier.
And Wade Robeson after death. Robeson testified under oath on MJ's behalf during the trial and his lawsuit was dismissed.
I'm not sure about others.
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:53 pm to blueboy
You think just because he settled he was guilty?
Posted on 12/17/18 at 2:54 pm to Malefic Runt
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Or is it just the same auto-denial contingent that beieves OJ was innocent
I know back then people believed OJ didn't do it, but I don't think you will find too many people today who will say OJ is still innocent.
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