re: Archbishop fires board of Second Harvest for not diverting money to pay for pedophiles.

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...and Gayle Benson supports the Archbishop

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Then Gayle should just pay the remaining debt for the pedophile victims.

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At the local level, the Catholic Church was wonderful at one point.

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No, it really wasn't. 6% of all Catholic Priests have sexual abused a child. There's a 1/17 chance that every priest you come into contact with rapes children. Think of all the small towns in your surrounding area and how many Catholic churches there are. Do you have 17 in your head? That's not a very big area right? 1/17 is actively harboring a pedophile priest, and they fricking know about it. They just move them around from parish to parish.

And it's all funded by people that donate into that basket every Sunday.

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The Catholic Church pretends that they’re the original Christians when the Bible clearly says that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist into the Baptist faith

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All “Religion” is man made and therefore prone to the same flaws of man.

I align myself more with Baptist but hold no illusions that it has its issues as well. Same for Catholic, Methodist, etc

Ultimately I put my faith in the word of God, read my Bible and live my life based on what I gather from it.

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6% of all Catholic Priests have sexual abused a child

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Where in the world did you get this statistic?

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Never knew we were giving $ to the Catholic Archdiocese and not Second Harvest for food. Is Second Harvest another front for the Archdiocese to take in $????

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Second Harvest is and always has been a Catholic charity. They do tremendous good for the poor and needy.

Yes, they take donations from all sources including federal and other grant moneys. There is still a huge portion that comes from the collections of Catholic parishes and individual Catholics as well.

It’s one of the many great works of charity and mercy that are quietly performed by Catholics around the world.

This story is more complicated than the newsmen are prepared to understand or explain. It’s much easier to heap more scorn on the church.

Aymond is in an impossible situation. The monetary side of sex abuse scandal is now in the hands of the courts and competing lawyers.

They don’t seem to understand that the Catholic Church is not exactly like a big company or corporation. The operations of the many institution that are run by Catholics take guidance from the Pastors, Bishops, or ArchBishops, or Pope, etc., but can’t be compared to normal for-profit organizations.

The plaintiff lawyers would go after every institution that holds the name of Catholic: the colleges, the high schools and elementary schools, publications, the monasteries, the parishes, the retreat centers, the counseling centers, the orphanages, etc., etc.

I’m going to assume that someone made the decision that the Diocese’s contribution to Second Harvesters should be reduced / returned so that the victims could be paid as part of the Bankruptcy Proceedings. They probably saw a fat bank account over at Second Harvesters, and organization that has a good reputation for actually doing good, and who gets lots of funding.

For those who think the church should just sell properties, that’s has been and is currently going on. The reality is that churches don’t really do well on the open market. Several are up for sale right now with no takers. Our Lady of Lourdes and its adjacent school grounds were recently sold after being on the market for 20 years. Luckily for all, the Freret Street corridor has been revitalized and the property became valuable. That’s the exception but not the rule.

And most of the parish properties were built with the monies directly contributed by the people of that parish. It’s not like the Diocese owns them, unless they get closed/abandoned for lack of attendance.

I think it’s also important to note that sex abuse of children is rampant in all segments of society, and in all churches. It’s the prominence of the Catholic Church, it’s hierarchical structure, and it’s vow of celibacy by the clergy (which is not understood in a sexed-crazed, secular society which vilifies the practice) that causes people to focus on its abuses above those of other churches and organizations.

Notice how lightly we treat the rampant sex abuse of students by teachers. If these teachers were part of a larger organization that could be sued in. Class action way, the coverage would be very different.

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I think it’s also important to note that sex abuse of children is rampant in all segments of society, and in all churches. It’s the prominence of the Catholic Church, it’s hierarchical structure, and it’s vow of celibacy by the clergy (which is not understood in a sexed-crazed, secular society which vilifies the practice) that causes people to focus on its abuses above those of other churches and organizations.

Notice how lightly we treat the rampant sex abuse of students by teachers. If these teachers were part of a larger organization that could be sued in. Class action way, the coverage would be very different.

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Has there been history of covering up abuse of teachers and just moving them to different schools to abuse more kids?

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I often look at the types of people that go to my church and they are almost always 50+ with not that many young couples.

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I did not go to church much after I started college...I go fairly often now as I am older. I started going more often when my kids started attending a Catholic school.

This is nothing new.

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Our church is the world brother

The church is not a building, a church is not a steeple, a church is not a resting place, the church is the people (John the Baptist and Jesus were the first baptists)

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What you have is idolatry worshiping a John the Baptist who himself said wasn’t worthy to untie Jesus’ sandal.


John the Baptist was merely a road sign pointing to Christ who really did start a church. A church which continues today which is the Catholic Churches - Roman and eastern rites.

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Aymond is in an impossible situation. The monetary side of sex abuse scandal is now in the hands of the courts and competing lawyers.

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Aymond started this process. He rang the bell.

Now I’m sure he didn’t think it would turn out like this. But he’s the one that turned control over to the lawyers.

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What could you mean by this? I don’t understand your perspective.

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He made the decision to file bankruptcy to get a stay on the lawsuits and to try to force a settlement. That led to the number of claims skyrocketing. I think he misjudged how complicated this bankruptcy would be. $40M spent on lawyers might have been spent better.