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re: Apparently, there are now more job vacancies than unemployed people - do you believe this?

Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:07 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:07 am to
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If you find yourself making minimum wage as an adult than you made some very poor life decisions or your employer feels like you only have the bare minimum skills necessary to perform the job.


For most practical purposes, you're unemployable.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21210 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:32 am to
Good and accurate observation. Had this discussion with a national contact today. Austin, Denver, Nashville, etc are exploding. Louisiana not so much
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105190 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:34 am to
There are more jobs than “people looking for work”, not “unemployed people”.

Start kicking people off food stamps and SSDI if they’re able bodied and young enough to work. They either feed themselves or starve.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11582 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:53 am to
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A full-time worker with two kids needs at least $30,135 this year to be safely out of poverty. That’s $15 an hour for a forty-hour workweek.


These people should probably develop a skill, get an education and not have kids out of wedlock so they can have a dual income family.

Not everyone will make over minimum wage. But that's ok. If you're unskilled or uneducated and you've just GOT to have a kid...marry somebody. Double even a minimum wage income at a simple 40-hour week, and you've got a "livable" wage for having one kid, just under 30 grand. Of course, there are some increased costs with two people, but there are also plenty of shared costs.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:58 am to
No kidding. Then consider these jobs are likely low pay and people still won't be able to make ends meet with them and will continue to need some level of assistance.

Hey, makes a great 10 second sound bit though. :eyeroll:
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:22 am to
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$15 per hour - or more.

There is no excuse for not having a $15 per hour minimum wage


Not that you're actually going to watch it but this would be five minutes of your life well spent...

Milton Friedman
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:28 am to
Problem with that is that the typical way up the ladder doesn't exist any more. It's talking out of both sides of the mouth. People that espouse stuff like this also work their damndest to monopolize as much as possible and to cut labor as much as possible to increase profits. It doesn't work either.

Of course, laws forcing them to pay more don't work either, as they'll just pass the increased cost directly back to the consumer thereby increasing COL yet again. The solution is going to be a violent one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:45 am to
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Problem with that is that the typical way up the ladder doesn't exist any more


Sure it does. If you're 40 and still making min wage, it's either by choice or you've really screwed up along the way.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 11:46 am to
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There is no excuse for not having a $15 per hour minimum wage


Economics
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:20 pm to
I don't think so. The ladder has become much more streamlined due to advances in technology and experience. As corporations have grown in power they learned to cut labor as much as possible to increase shares, etc.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:21 pm to
Then you have a City in California, who is going to give people making less than 50K a year, a free $500 a month.

They are testing it soon, as they accept applications.



LOL, yeah, this will work.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13901 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:29 pm to
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There is no excuse for not having a $15 per hour minimum wage.


Sure, if you don't mind paying $35 for a hamburger
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78033 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:30 pm to
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$15 per hour - or more.

There is no excuse for not having a $15 per hour minimum wage.

Scruffy makes WAY less than that and is living very comfortably.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:30 pm to
The basic principle still holds in that you shouldn't use the government to force equality and history is quite clear that the results are always negative and that the market Knows Best. Of course it's not perfect and it's never going to be but trying to force Perfection has always ended an absolute disaster.

But yeah, otherwise I agree with you.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99037 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:31 pm to
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$15 per hour - or more.

There is no excuse for not having a $15 per hour minimum wage.


Just go away
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:36 pm to
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It's the percentage of the labor force that is actively seeking employment but remain unemployed. We are probably near full employment already.

1-1
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42608 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:36 pm to
I would bet most of these jobs are concentrated in about 20 cities. They are certainly not spread evenly around the country.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21210 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:41 pm to
Probably very accurate assumption and was the feedback that I heard today. Some areas are cranking.
Did mention how other cities seem to get ahead with the infrastructure development before hitting close to capacity while NOLA and LA just react and patch over horrible problems.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:06 pm to
Yeah that doesn't work either. There's just no easy solution anymore now with globalization. It's going to be a very very painful correction. What the government is supposed to do is keep these things from getting so big and out of control. Unfortunately they've become the tool that is used to further the problem.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
85379 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:20 pm to
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Robert Reich, professor and former Secretary of Labor, has some great articles that refute what you said.
I just finished both. Which of those articles refute anything I said?

Not even Reich would disagree with ANYTHING I have said in this thread, as everything I have said is rudimentary economics.

So please enlighten me, sage of wisdom
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