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re: Anyone Here Do ROTC at TAMU?
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:59 pm to Matador
Posted on 4/2/19 at 9:59 pm to Matador
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Outside of the academies, I don't think anyone gives a crap where you go for ROTC
That is a big negative. The guys from either military schools or schools with a corp of cadets were always much better prepared for the military than from other schools. The military is still pretty much a meritocracy for officers at least but if you are planning on being career military there are definitely schools that give you a leg up.
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Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:00 pm to greenbean
If he goes to a service academy go to the Air Force Academy. Tell him to do Air Force ROTC if he goes that route.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:01 pm to greenbean
If he has graduated, it may be too late to apply to a Service Academy. My boys started this process in the 9th grade...
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:04 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
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If he goes to a service academy go to the Air Force Academy. Tell him to do Air Force ROTC if he goes that route.
There are very few cross-commissions though it can be done, maybe 1 out of 200. In general, you try to go to the Academy that is associated with the branch you desire.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:06 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
What does he want to major in? Does he want to make military a career or only do 4 years?
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:08 pm to jimbeam
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What? I knew a shite ton of engineers in ROTC at LSU. Lots of AF guys. What route would you recommend an engineer to take to become an officer? BCT and OCS? Screw that.
You can do it certainly, my point is there is no damn point. If you are an engineer chances are the military will take you at a drop of a hat no matter where you graduated from.
Rotc is more for leading combat groups is my point. Professionals in the military are a completely different duty.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:11 pm to greenbean
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No offense sir, but you have no idea what you are typing about. I spent 32 years in AF engineering squadrons, there is no combat for AF engineers
No offense taken but no offense to you sir, you don’t read too good. That’s exactly what I said and exactly my point.
The military is darn near desperate for engineers, lawyers, doctors, and other professionals. There’s really no point in going rotc to get ahead in those fields unless you want to.
Furthermore, unless you live and breath the military then there’s no point in going Rotc or academies to do those outside of the scholarships and tuition.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:17 pm to baldona
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You can do it certainly, my point is there is no damn point. If you are an engineer chances are the military will take you at a drop of a hat no matter where you graduated from.
Rotc is more for leading combat groups is my point. Professionals in the military are a completely different duty.
No - this is not how this works.
ROTC has the advantage of offering options compared to the Service Academies, you can go directly into the National Guard or Reserves if you prefer, there are probably more options by doing ROTC for the combat support and service support. And for those I know that went to law school or medical school doing ROTC allowed them more flexibility and gave them a sense of how the system work compared to those who went into the military straight from a professional school.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:23 pm to cypresstiger
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One of the few serious answers here—a night with the corps is a great way for him to see if he likes it.
For my son, he found them too cult-like, you know, “TAMU is the greatest place south of Heaven”. “Why would anyone not go to TAMU?”
He visited LSU but they were too disorganized
So Alleva got hold of our ROTC too??
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:27 pm to baldona
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The military is darn near desperate for engineers, lawyers, doctors, and other professionals. There’s really no point in going rotc to get ahead in those fields unless you want to.
You bring up a salient point, these are called direct commissions. It would be important to find out as much as possible because the numbers of these vary significantly over time, for example when I graduated there were no slots for lawyers as the JAG core was busting at the seams with lawyers. Many were using the military to pay for law school.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:54 am to greenbean
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during my final deployment in 2015, Kandahar was hit pretty hard (I was at a different base)
When was Kandahar hit "pretty hard" in 2015?
I was there from May through November and nothing landed within 100 feet of the retaining wall.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:57 am to baldona
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Rotc is more for leading combat groups is my point.
ROTC is a commissioning source, pure and simple. So are the service academies, so is OCS.
What career field you receive is dependent on a lot of factors the individual has no control over.
Advancement past Captain is often dependent on factors you have little control over as well (get the wrong senior rater at the wrong time and you never advance).
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:20 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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DA Training Opportunities: As a SMC, A&M Cadets do not attend the "Basic Camp" that other ROTC programs send their cadets to between their MS2 and MS3 year. That summer is primarily when cadets attend Basic Airborne Training and the Air Assault School. When I went through, A&M was allocated 18 Airborne and 4 Air Assault slots, and it was a very competitive process to get those slots. I had to abdicate mine so I could take summer school to graduate on time (Electrical Engineering degree). A&M is typically allocated between 2-5 CTLT slots as well during the Advanced Camp year.
this isn't quite accurate...Basic Camp is for those who either haven't taken the first two years of ROTC or for those who are going to a Military Junior College like Marion Institute or New Mexico Military Institute...
If the OP's son found LSU somewhat disorganized, he really needs to look at one of the senior military colleges or even one of the junior colleges...
LSU's program does a far better job of training today than they did when I was a cadet...
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:24 am to vl100butch
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LSU's program does a far better job of training today than they did when I was a cadet...
I think everyone can say that, especially those of us who commissioned during the post-1995 Clinton years.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:26 am to vl100butch
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If the OP's son found LSU somewhat disorganized,
I like how a 17 year old punk takes a brief visit to LSU and makes that assessment, and his old man takes it as accurate
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:28 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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LSU's program does a far better job of training today than they did when I was a cadet...
I think everyone can say that, especially those of us who commissioned during the post-1995 Clinton years.
you should have seen what it was like in the 1973-75 time frame!!!!!
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:29 am to 777Tiger
I was in the LSU program from 2010-2013, and it being disorganized is one thing that I enjoyed
ETA: Being disorganized really prepared me for the big Army
ETA: Being disorganized really prepared me for the big Army
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 10:31 am
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:32 am to Mear
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I was in the LSU program from 2010-2013, and it being disorganized is one thing that I enjoyed
it's been a while since I've seen any stats but LSU used to be one of the leading(non service academy) schools as far as generating officers for the US military
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:37 am to 777Tiger
It hasn't been that way in a while, the groups that commissioned +/- 2 years from me produced a small amount of Active Duty officers.
I can count on one hand how many of us are still in.
Based on their social media, it looks like the program has grown a lot in the past few years.
I can count on one hand how many of us are still in.
Based on their social media, it looks like the program has grown a lot in the past few years.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:40 am to Mear
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It hasn't been that way in a while,
I can imagine the numbers are down post VN, ROTC was required of all male freshmen up until 1970, I think? so I'd bet a lot of it kind of stuck as a result of that
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