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re: Anyone ever use another job offer as a tactic to get a raise/promotion?
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:59 am to Jenious
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:59 am to Jenious
7 years ago or so I in a critical role on a critical project and essentially the rest of the team I was on all quit at the same time over the stress. New manager came on board and the first thing I told him is I'm underpaid. I committed to spend 3 months making sure he learned enough to not fail and if my personal situation didn't improve then I was going to go elsewhere.
About 90 days later I had a promotion with a 20% salary increase. I've been relatively well taken care of since.
About 90 days later I had a promotion with a 20% salary increase. I've been relatively well taken care of since.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:20 pm to Jenious
I've done it. The company thought I was bluffing and told me good luck. I said thank you and handed in my letter of resignation. Within the hour the owners wanted me in their office and tried to counter. I honestly was so offended that they so quickly dismissed me the first time that I didn't allow for the counter.
Made the move and never looked back.
I was trying to be reasonable and allow them the opportunity to give me an appropriate raise that he market dictated for me but they decided to pretend like I was easily replaceable. Made my decision easy.
I've also been in the other position and had an assistant superintendent come to me and say he was offered more money and a gas card at a new company. I wasn't offended, guy had kids and a family so I made him a reasonable counter and he stayed. It's business, it's not personal but you should always be careful to not make it personal for no reason
Made the move and never looked back.
I was trying to be reasonable and allow them the opportunity to give me an appropriate raise that he market dictated for me but they decided to pretend like I was easily replaceable. Made my decision easy.
I've also been in the other position and had an assistant superintendent come to me and say he was offered more money and a gas card at a new company. I wasn't offended, guy had kids and a family so I made him a reasonable counter and he stayed. It's business, it's not personal but you should always be careful to not make it personal for no reason
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:20 pm to Jenious
Don't do it with an offer that you aren't willing to actually accept.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:21 pm to Jenious
Ask for a raise first. If you don't get it, interview at the other company, and if they offer, take it.
Don't give your company a chance to match, because they already denied a raise. They're going to be petty, and they will shitcan you as soon as they get a chance.
But before you do anything, you need to find out what you can about that new company and if you'd be happy working there. Money is very important, but it's not everything.
Don't give your company a chance to match, because they already denied a raise. They're going to be petty, and they will shitcan you as soon as they get a chance.
But before you do anything, you need to find out what you can about that new company and if you'd be happy working there. Money is very important, but it's not everything.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:25 pm to Jenious
I don’t counter offer people to stay. If one of my team members feels under paid I tell them to bring that to me. We discuss that things have to be win-win-win for the team member, our partners, and our company.
If someone is really doing well and can show it then it stands to reason I can pay them more, up the bill rate to partners so we maintain margins, and our partners still generate significant ROI.
If you blindside me by saying you have another offer and try to use it as leverage I will likely wish you the best. Think you are underpaid… let’s talk. I may not agree with you. If you make your case about the value you bring in an objective manner a good company should listen.
If someone is really doing well and can show it then it stands to reason I can pay them more, up the bill rate to partners so we maintain margins, and our partners still generate significant ROI.
If you blindside me by saying you have another offer and try to use it as leverage I will likely wish you the best. Think you are underpaid… let’s talk. I may not agree with you. If you make your case about the value you bring in an objective manner a good company should listen.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:27 pm to wadewilson
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Money is very important, but it's not everything.
This is so true. I have some pretty awesome flexibility with my job. If you add up those flexible hours over the course of a year it is a really nice benefit to have. Other places would make me burn vacation
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:35 pm to Rouge
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Don't bluff.
Yep. Have the offer in hand and if they won't match or there are hard feelings, go.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:40 pm to Jenious
I’m going to give you some real world advice.
Grow a set of balls and go talk to your manager, ask for a raise and tell him the value that you bring to the company and your position. Explain that you enjoy your job and love the company but you believe you’re worth more. Tell him what you believe your market value is and what you’d like to be paid. Give him the opportunity to reciprocate, or fail you. DO NOT THREATEN TO LEAVE OR INTERVIEW FOR ANOTHER POSITION.
Two things will happen, you’ll either get the financial appreciation you requested, or not. If not, then go talk to the other company and see if your market value is what you’re expecting.
If you decide to leave, DO NOT ACCEPT A COUNTER OFFER.
Grow a set of balls and go talk to your manager, ask for a raise and tell him the value that you bring to the company and your position. Explain that you enjoy your job and love the company but you believe you’re worth more. Tell him what you believe your market value is and what you’d like to be paid. Give him the opportunity to reciprocate, or fail you. DO NOT THREATEN TO LEAVE OR INTERVIEW FOR ANOTHER POSITION.
Two things will happen, you’ll either get the financial appreciation you requested, or not. If not, then go talk to the other company and see if your market value is what you’re expecting.
If you decide to leave, DO NOT ACCEPT A COUNTER OFFER.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:41 pm to BabyTac
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I’ve been offered raises/promotions when having another offer, but had already made up my mind to leave regardless.
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BabyTac
I'm sure your previous admin was sorry to see his assistant leave
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:42 pm to Saunson69
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I go back and forth between wanting to leave for better pay or stay. Part of me knows that I probably won't get a job I like this much, it's possible but based on my past jobs, I'd think not likely. Part of me wants to just go in and ask for a raise and it'd all be perfect if they did say yes. I deserve a promotion by now based on quantity of years at my current role and most importantly the massive, massive contribution I supplied the company. Talking a billion dollar plus thing that if I were not at the company, 0 chance it happens. That's more than any MD who is over 50 has brought to the table for the company.
When's the last time you got a raise? If it hasn't been very recently tell them, "Bro, inflation is eating me alive. I need more". If they blow you off or treat you like you don't have options, then it's time to explore them.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:43 pm to Beessnax
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I have some pretty awesome flexibility with my job. If you add up those flexible hours over the course of a year it is a really nice benefit to have.
Assuming you're already making middle-class money, I'd rather have the time off.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:55 pm to Jenious
Make sure you HAVE the job, I'm talking about taking the drug test if required. Be ready to walk.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:59 pm to Jenious
Don’t bluff and be prepared to leave if your current employer doesn’t budge
Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:04 pm to Jenious
Yes. But be prepared to leave. Do not lie/bluff because you could be left with no job. Be prepared to show the offer if they ask.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:06 pm to Jenious
I've left a job for a while to only get offered a lot more to come back
Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:13 pm to Jenious
You should have a pretty good idea of how to do this and what is the best approach after being there for over 15 years. Can you not level with your boss/the CEO and lay it out like you have done here?
Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:34 pm to Traveler
I only interview and get new jobs when I’m ready to leave. At that point I am ready to leave and would actually take a significant increase above what new position is paying to get me to reconsider leaving. Mind you me and the wife make good enough money that money isn’t really a reason to leave a job. If we needed more money then absolutely but why be with a company that you feel is undervalueing and why not go with other company that values you more?
Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:41 pm to DiamondDog
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Couple things...never stay. You burn good will even if its amicable. Trust is gone. You'll constantly compare your "lost" opportunity. Eventually you'll sour on the job even if there is no functional change.
This
Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:56 pm to Jenious
Don't do it. If you brought this scenario to me, I would offer you compensation just to get you to stay. Two months later I would fire your arse just to show you I could.
Not really but I could see this happening. If you have to seek new employment to get a better deal from your current employer then it is not a good place for you to be. Take the new offer.
Not really but I could see this happening. If you have to seek new employment to get a better deal from your current employer then it is not a good place for you to be. Take the new offer.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 2:03 pm to Jenious
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There isnt anyone here that knows our system like I do

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