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re: Anyone else’s priest read a statement from the Bishop of The Diocese of BR?

Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
20230 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:36 pm to
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mudshuvl05
A profoundly ignorant post about what I support. You don't know me at all.

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the exploitation of poor 3rd world illegal law breakers
My "illegal" friend owns his own business
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who don't assimilate
He's way more of a Central baw than I'll ever be
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for the betterment of corporate profit margins.
That's what my day job's for
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
15194 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:36 pm to
Everyone knows the USCCB is in it for the government cheese Biden gave them.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138119 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:36 pm to
Our priest read this a couple weeks ago. My wife about came unglued.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35772 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:39 pm to
This is about money, power, and the future of the church.

Does anyone really believe this is about altruism?
Posted by Chef Curry
Member since Mar 2019
2915 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:49 pm to
Scroll past the thread, but you had to jump in to make your “religion reeeeeee” argument.
This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 3:50 pm
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8649 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:14 pm to
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Being here illegally is de facto a drain on and harmful to society.


Being a human being to others takes very little yet it's so often elusive to people here in America. 99.99% of "us" did nothing to be here "legally" except be born here, and our parents did the same.

There are plenty of people that have migrated here through various channels who work hard, contribute to society, pay for goods and services, and work for sub-optimal wages. Is this, by itself, a reason to kick them out of the country?

I'd argue that we should be trying to find ways to differentiate between those who seek to harm others and those simply trying to earn a living and minding their own business.

And above all that, seek to treat people as human beings with dignity and worth. I always find it very telling how many people who are "Catholic" here in the Diocese of BR are so willing to ignore Catholic Social Teachings as it relates to the treatment of immigrants and the poor.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41411 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:17 pm to
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The law I used as an example is not a hypothetical in the slightest as being a Christian is punishable by death in Afghanistan.


A law that directly contradicts the law of God. How does requiring legal status to live here contradict the law of God?
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
1724 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:23 pm to
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How would Jesus treat "illegals"?


Let the Catholic Church pay for them. All of them. Every expense.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41411 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:25 pm to
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99.99% of "us" did nothing to be here "legally" except be born here,


Yeah that’s been a pretty consistent determining factor in citizenship, he’ll even group/tribe acceptance, across the entirety of human history.

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There are plenty of people that have migrated here through various channels


You mean breaking the laws, quit dressing it up.

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who work hard, contribute to society, pay for goods and services

Nobody is arguing otherwise

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and work for sub-optimal wages. Is this, by itself, a reason to kick them out of the country?

Actually yes. Because they work for suboptimal wages they depress wages for actual citizens looking to get into trades such as masonry, framing, painting, etc…

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I'd argue that we should be trying to find ways to differentiate between those who seek to harm others and those simply trying to earn a living and minding their own business.

We did try that and the left leaning coalition cried from the rooftops about expedited deportations and inhumane practices.

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And above all that, seek to treat people as human beings with dignity and worth.

Define this ivory towered pontification with concrete examples please.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9534 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:27 pm to
Where does it say illegal foreigners??? Or outside of the promised land of the Jews???

Regardless since you must believe in enforcing all of the Old Testament we have a lot to discuss about certain sexual practices and lifestyles, rhetoric, perverting justice, disrespecting parents, lies & deceit, doing anything to endanger our neighbors, getting tattoos, wait time for eating the fruit form new plantings, atonement and forgiveness for men sleeping with female slaves cutting hair a certain length, observing the sabbath, wearing clothes from 2 materials, and more. Some of these deserve death according to Leviticus.

Accept it all or use none of it.

Same with the rule of law. We can deport legal aliens for many reasons much less ones here illegally.
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An alien whose presence or activities in the United States the Secretary of State has reasonable ground to believe would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States is deportable.
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Public charge
Any alien who, within five years after the date of entry, has become a public charge from causes not affirmatively shown to have arisen since entry is deportable.
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Violators of protection orders
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Trafficking
Any alien described in section 1182(a)(2)(H) of this title is deportable.
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Change of address
An alien who has failed to comply with the provisions of section 1305 of this title is deportable, unless the alien establishes to the satisfaction of the Attorney General that such failure was reasonably excusable or was not willful.
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Falsely claiming citizenship
(i) In general
Any alien who falsely represents, or has falsely represented, himself to be a citizen of the United States for any purpose or benefit under this chapter (including section 1324a of this title) or any Federal or State law is deportable.
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any activity a purpose of which is the opposition to, or the control or overthrow of, the Government of the United States by force, violence, or other unlawful means,
is deportable.
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Any immigrant who is or has been a member of or affiliated with the Communist or any other totalitarian party (or subdivision or affiliate thereof), domestic or foreign, is inadmissible.
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Inadmissible at time of entry or of adjustment of status or violates status
(A) Inadmissible aliens
Any alien who at the time of entry or adjustment of status was within one or more of the classes of aliens inadmissible by the law existing at such time is deportable.

(B) Present in violation of law
Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this chapter or any other law of the United States, or whose nonimmigrant visa (or other documentation authorizing admission into the United States as a nonimmigrant) has been revoked under section 1201(i) of this title, is deportable.

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(B) Controlled substances
(i) Conviction
Any alien who at any time after admission has been convicted of a violation of (or a conspiracy or attempt to violate) any law or regulation of a State, the United States, or a foreign country relating to a controlled substance (as defined in section 802 of title 21), other than a single offense involving possession for one’s own use of 30 grams or less of marijuana, is deportable.

(ii) Drug abusers and addicts
Any alien who is, or at any time after admission has been, a drug abuser or addict is deportable.

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Any alien who—
(I) is convicted of a crime involving moral turpitude committed within five years (or 10 years in the case of an alien provided lawful permanent resident status under section 1255(j) of this title) after the date of admission, and
(II) is convicted of a crime for which a sentence of one year or longer may be imposed,
is deportable.
(ii) Multiple criminal convictions
Any alien who at any time after admission is convicted of two or more crimes involving moral turpitude, not arising out of a single scheme of criminal misconduct, regardless of whether confined therefor and regardless of whether the convictions were in a single trial, is deportable.

(iii) Aggravated felony
Any alien who is convicted of an aggravated felony at any time after admission is deportable.

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High speed flight
Any alien who is convicted of a violation of section 758 of title 18 (relating to high speed flight from an immigration checkpoint) is deportable.

(v) Failure to register as a sex offender
Any alien who is convicted under section 2250 of title 18 is deportable.
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Smuggling
(i) In general Any alien who (prior to the date of entry, at the time of any entry, or within 5 years of the date of any entry) knowingly has encouraged, induced, assisted, abetted, or aided any other alien to enter or to try to enter the United States in violation of law is deportable.
(there is a family exception for a specific class of legal aliens).

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Termination of conditional permanent residence
(i) In general Any alien with permanent resident status on a conditional basis under section 1186a of this title (relating to conditional permanent resident status for certain alien spouses and sons and daughters) or under section 1186b of this title (relating to conditional permanent resident status for certain alien entrepreneurs, spouses, and children) who has had such status terminated under such respective section is deportable.


Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Member since Aug 2013
10294 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:34 pm to
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This isn't hard to understand. Politicians see through the lens of politics. The Church sees through the lens of Christ.


The RCC is a political institution and always has been.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39664 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:38 pm to
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We are offering help, guidance, and forgiveness by returning them to their country of origin.


Exactly. They have a pathway legally if they choose.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9534 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:38 pm to
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Romans 13:1, obey the law of the land. End of discussion


NIV version of the first 7 verses of chapter 13

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Submission to Governing Authorities

13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.


Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40573 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:38 pm to
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How would Jesus treat "illegals"?


Which Jesus are we talking about? The son of God or the guy on the concrete crew?
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45417 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:39 pm to
The libtards tell me that Clinton and Barry Soetoro put way more illegals out of the country than DJT has. Can I get a link to any of these kid touchers sending out letters to the parish, weeping about that?
This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Broomgilda0622
Red Stick
Member since Jul 2015
12 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:41 pm to
The Catholic Church has been covering up things for decades. They’ve got their own problems. Advocating for the illegals is nice, but why not advocate for all the kids across the country that have been violated by all the priests? I’m not Catholic and never will be. A church is a business. The Catholic Church was started to have someone who was just as important as the kings of the world. It was about power and money. If you think that has changed, you’re fooling yourself. Self governing allows them to be “legal” criminals. If only they had put as much energy in vetting their priests. You saying that someone needs counseling or prayer or whatever for not having the same beliefs as you, shows how much of a hypocrite you are. Way to be a good Christian!
Posted by junior
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2005
2563 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:43 pm to
My main issue w the statement is that the USA is expected to have a higher standard than Vatical City- an independent country ruled by the Pope.

What is the Vatican's stance on (undocumented) immigrants?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41411 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:45 pm to
You can’t ask that question. It’s important for the Vatican to have strict immigration rules. It’s a rich oasis surrounded by less well off neighbors that they can’t possibly support financially and logistically should there be unfettered immigration into its territory
This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 4:46 pm
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8907 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:46 pm to
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How would Jesus treat "illegals"? Very telling how some "Christians" are reacting to this.


I grant you 350 virtue points.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34368 posts
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:47 pm to
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What is the Vatican's stance on (undocumented) immigrants?



What is the stance on illegal immigration from any country?
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