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re: Anyone else’s priest read a statement from the Bishop of The Diocese of BR?
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:58 pm to Alt26
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:58 pm to Alt26
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2. Even if (probably) legal and (probably) effective, it does seem to be a little bit distasteful for the "state" to be using people gathering at church as an opportunity to arrest/detain suspected illegal immigrants.
Agreed 100%
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In short, I'm not pro-illegal immigration. Laws must be enforced. I just feel there are probably more reasonable means of enforcing the laws than arresting people while attending church (if that is actually happening)
I don’t think this is happening, but rather checkpoints being setup on a public road after church where most are funneled through most likely.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:59 pm to Harry Caray
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He does have legal permission to be here and has been working on the arduous process of naturalization for over a decade. As have many.
Then he wouldn’t be rounded up and deported.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:00 pm to Chef Curry
History has shown that Catholicism is more concerned about using Jesus to control people than it is about using Jesus to save people. Which is what Emperor Constantine wanted.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:00 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:He was two. Would Jesus condemn the two year old brought across a border and separate him from his family thirty years later?
Illegal entry and crossing of a border.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:01 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:Ideally. It's still a very legitimate fear for him and his wife/kids.
Then he wouldn’t be rounded up and deported.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:02 pm to Harry Caray
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He was two. Would Jesus condemn the two year old brought across a border and separate him from his family thirty years later?
You’ve already said that your boyfriend has legal status, correct? Therefore, he’s not part of this discussion. But continue to signal your virtue anyway.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:02 pm to Harry Caray
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How would Jesus treat "illegals"? Very telling how some "Christians" are reacting to this.
Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:03 pm to Chef Curry
quote:But he crossed the border as a two year old and should be held accountable, right?
You’ve already said that your boyfriend has legal status, correct? Therefore, he’s not part of this discussion. But continue to signal your virtue anyway.
And we're both married to women, sorry to let you down there.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:03 pm to Harry Caray
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Pay to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and to God what belongs to God
This means you obey the law of the land while on that land while also obeying the laws of God.
There are still rules we all must live by that have been agreed upon by communities through votes and enshrined into law. We should obey these, as should others trying to live here. Without that, we have anarchy.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:03 pm to Harry Caray
How many illegal aliens have you taken into your home and financially supported?
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:05 pm to Bourre
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How many illegal aliens have you taken into your home and financially supported?
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The straw man fallacy is a logical error where someone misrepresents an opponent's argument by distorting, exaggerating, or oversimplifying it, creating a weaker "straw man" version that's easier to attack, rather than addressing the actual, more complex position. This makes the attacker seem to win the argument by refuting a caricature, but they've avoided the real issue, often done intentionally to discredit the opponent or due to misunderstanding.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:05 pm to Harry Caray
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He was two. Would Jesus condemn the two year old brought across a border and separate him from his family thirty years later?
Love the emotional appeal arguments
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:06 pm to bad93ex
quote:I'm asking how Jesus would treat the situation the Church is currently handling. It's on topic, try to keep up.
Love the emotional appeal arguments
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:06 pm to Columbus
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ICE rounding up people in Mass
When and where did this happen?
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:07 pm to Harry Caray
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Harry Caray
A lot of these things, to me, are like those "don't feed the animals" signs. People have good intentions but it creates a bigger unseen problem.
It may feel good to essentially erase a nation's borders, but it can cause a lot of pain down the road.
Just something to think about, because I do think you mean well.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:08 pm to Harry Caray
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I'm asking how Jesus would treat the situation the Church is currently handling. It's on topic, try to keep up.
Romans 13:1, obey the law of the land. End of discussion
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:08 pm to 904
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Regardless, the Jesus as described in the Bible would not have generalized illegal immigrants as mass rapists, thieves, murderers, etc.,
You can deport illegal aliens without demonizing them.
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conversely would have offered help, guidance, and forgiveness on an individual by individual basis.
We are offering help, guidance, and forgiveness by returning them to their country of origin.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:08 pm to Harry Caray
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How would Jesus treat "illegals"?
Very telling how some "Christians" are reacting to this.
Mark 12:17 tells us "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s,"
Which means we are too follow the laws of man unless they contradict the laws of God.
Even with Gods laws their are boundaries and things in place to keep certain people out. Not everyone makes it into heaven. Why would anyone think that God wants everyone to let everyone into their home (or country) when he isnt going to let anyone who wants into heaven?
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:08 pm to RidiculousHype
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A lot of these things, to me, are like those "don't feed the animals" signs. People have good intentions but it creates a bigger unseen problem.
Caving to illegal immigration is giving more money to the coyotes and cartels
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:08 pm to bad93ex
So much conflation in this thread.
The Christian shouldn't mistreat foreigners =/= Jesus forbids the government from enforcing the laws of the government
The Christian shouldn't mistreat foreigners =/= Jesus forbids the government from enforcing the laws of the government
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