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re: Another school shooting - Maryland

Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:52 am to
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:52 am to
Good question and point.
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:59 am to
Found some interesting info on wiki that's worth discussing
quote:

In May 2002, the Secret Service published a report that examined 37 U.S. school shootings. They had the following findings:

Incidents of targeted violence at school were rarely sudden, impulsive acts.

Prior to most incidents, other people knew about the attacker's idea and/or plan to attack.

Most attackers did not threaten their targets directly prior to advancing the attack.

There is no accurate or useful profile of students who engaged in targeted school violence.

Most attackers engaged in some behavior prior to the incident that caused others concern or indicated a need for help.

Most attackers had difficulty coping with significant losses or personal failures.
Moreover, many had considered or attempted suicide.
Many attackers felt bullied, persecuted, or injured by others prior to the attack.

Most attackers had access to and had used weapons prior to the attack.

In many cases, other students were involved in some capacity.
Despite prompt law enforcement responses, most shooting incidents were stopped by means other than law enforcement intervention.[124]
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:14 am to
Is there anything new out since there were only 2 victims?

Pisses me off how the media reports these. There are school shootings, and then there are shootings at schools.

A shooting involving only 2 victims could have been a drug deal gone bad, or something like that.

Huge difference between that, and some kid trying to kill as many high school classmates as possible.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:21 am to
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We could start holding parents criminally responsible if the shooter acquired their guns.

Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:22 am to
I've seen where it's three people injured but nothing definitive yet. I'd rather them get accurate information before putting it out there. Seldom happens though.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:25 am to
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Ban guns



Drugs are banned and illegal also yet they are rampant in schools.

Criminals don’t follow the law. That’s why they are criminals
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:28 am to
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I've seen where it's three people injured but nothing definitive yet.


3 people, but one is the shooter. Pretty sure this is basically official.

So one guy shot 2 people. Maybe the resource officer happened to be close by, but seems more likely this is far from a 'school shooting' and more likely a shooting at a school where the perp had a specific person or 2 in mind.
Posted by bawbarn
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:28 am to
Better parents.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:34 am to
Correct. Stories like this spread like wildfire. Accuracy in reporting should trump getting the story out first.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:40 am to
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There is no accurate or useful profile of students who engaged in targeted school violence.


quote:

Most attackers engaged in some behavior prior to the incident that caused others concern or indicated a need for help.

Most attackers had difficulty coping with significant losses or personal failures.
Moreover, many had considered or attempted suicide.
Many attackers felt bullied, persecuted, or injured by others prior to the attack.

Most attackers had access to and had used weapons prior to the attack.


This seems like a pretty good start to a useful profile.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:44 am to
Is every person who has some of these traits going to shoot up a school? Are we supposed to lock them up for these traits? We are talking about a miniscule number compared to our population. Where is the uproar over those kids killed texting and driving, drug/gang murders, etc...?
Posted by Tdot_RiverDawg
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:47 am to
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There is no solution. If somebody wants to commit one of these terrible acts of violence, they can. There will always be a weapon...there will always be “soft” targets. Not much we can do to stop it, unless you want to live in a permanent state of martial law.


Agreed, but I wonder why we see the attacks at schools,but not at sporting events? Is it just the police presence that deters it?
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:50 am to
I would think it's because of the higher security presence.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:55 am to
"A student who shot and critically wounded two fellow students at a Maryland high school on Tuesday morning, has died after exchanging gunfire with a campus security officer, the county sheriff said."
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 10:56 am
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:57 am to
"The school day had barely begun when the student, who has not been identified, shot a male student and a female student at Great Mills High School in St. Mary's County before the campus security officer intervened, county Sheriff Timothy Cameron told NBC's Washington affiliate.

All three students were in critical condition at hospitals."
Posted by High C
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:00 am to
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has died


quote:

All three students were in critical condition at hospitals."


Posted by 91TIGER
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:01 am to
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quote:
We could start holding parents criminally responsible if the shooter acquired their guns.



What about your vehicle you insure that your drunk kid takes a kills someone else ?
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:03 am to
Yeah, hopefully those 2 pull through. Might be a relationship issue.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:04 am to
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What about your vehicle you insure that your drunk kid takes a kills someone else ?



Child is the one punished in a court of law but parents are certainly held liable. I don't see how this would would work any differently.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:05 am to
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The student entered Great Mills High School in Great Mills at the beginning of the school day and shot a female student in a hallway, Sheriff Tim Cameron told News4. A male student also was hit by a bullet.


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The 16-year-old female student was stabilized and transfered to UM Prince George's Hospital Center, and the 14-year-old male victim is in good condition, according to the MedStar St. Mary's Hospital The shooter, a male, has died, the sheriff said.


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