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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:10 am to
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:10 am to
I understand the point but how do you hold them responsible or liable? Unless they knew it was going to happen and didn't stop it. Did any of our parents know what was going on in our day to day lives? I think not.
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:33 am to
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Agreed, but I wonder why we see the attacks at schools,but not at sporting events? Is it just the police presence that deters it?


Major sporting events are no longer soft targets. It’s impossible to secure every gathering place in America though. Security at schools should be increased....if we’re gonna protect anyone it should be the kids.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:35 am to
quote:

I understand the point but how do you hold them responsible or liable? Unless they knew it was going to happen and didn't stop it. Did any of our parents know what was going on in our day to day lives? I think not.



Many of these parents understand their kids are a bit off, or acting differently. Simply locking away your firearm from your child should be common sense. Particularly for children who may have a history of mental illness, or even a family history.

I'm not a lawmaker nor an attorney, so I can't speak to how exactly you hold them liable. Liability can mean many different things. Legally, financially, idk. Negligence certainly comes to mind.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 11:36 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:36 am to
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Security at schools should be increased....if we’re gonna protect anyone it should be the kids.

Sounds like this bad guy was stopped with a good guy with a gun
Posted by Marfa
Esplanade
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:36 am to
Its a catch 22. I feel like kids are becoming copy cats. School shootings are at the top of every media outlet right now. Its everywhere.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:37 am to
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Any ideas on how to stop these?

sounds like the school resource officer had the answer today.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:42 am to
I agree, it's common sense stuff but some don't have that.
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:44 am to
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It's amazing that some people are terrified of guns.



I'm not terrified of guns, I'm terrified of what they can do when they are in the wrong hands.

I remember being 18 years old, the emotional volatility and maturity at that age just aren't there to have unfiltered access to firearms. Hell, we don't even trust them with alcohol yet

My 60 year old former army ranger father? I'm not troubled by him owning a gun

Just think some system for firearm purchasing for people say 18-21 that requires say a safety class, basic psych eval and short waiting period would be helpful
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 11:45 am
Posted by Thrawn
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:47 am to
quote:

I feel like kids are becoming copy cats.


Kids have always been copycats.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:48 am to
I guess it's different for everyone. I grew up with guns, was taught to respect them and what they could do. I haven't shot any place up.

I agree with your point though. It's getting old hearing from others about banning guns, that will not solve the problem and will create others.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:51 am to
The armed resource officer shot and killed the shooter, saving many lives. Has this been discussed yet?
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 11:55 am to
a little bit, depends on what the situation actually was. Did the gunman only target those two who were shot? Bottom line, the SRO ended the threat, permanently.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40527 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

guess it's different for everyone. I grew up with guns, was taught to respect them and what they could do. I haven't shot any place up.


Well, presumably, it's because you aren't a fricking lunatic.

All the respect for guns in the world can't cure crazy.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:20 pm to
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Did the gunman only target those two who were shot?


Looks like he was targeting the female victim.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:22 pm to
Exactly and that will never change.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10526 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:23 pm to
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Agreed, but I wonder why we see the attacks at schools,but not at sporting events? Is it just the police presence that deters it?


Maybe the police presence. But it seems motive is the main reason that the targets tend to be schools. It seems to be current or former bullied/troubled students taking their anger out on the place that caused their problems.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:28 pm to
and the people who he thinks caused his grief.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10954 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:32 pm to
You can’t stop evil from happening. Blame it on whatever you want. Mental illness. Bullying. Whatever. It doesn’t matter. It’s gonna happen. You can increase security and that’s about it. But what happens when schools become locked down? Shooters target malls? Parking lots? It will never stop.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:33 pm to
Agreed but certain members of our society want to blame everything but the evil.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37861 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

guess it's different for everyone. I grew up with guns, was taught to respect them and what they could do


Obviously not everyone has that, but my point was to change the process of unsupervised firearm purchases by youth. Almost similar to getting a driver's license etc

An 18-21YO who is on their first unsupervised firearm purchase should go through

-Basic saefty/instructions course
-Basic psych eval
-Short, reasonable waiting period


The youth still have access and parents/gaurdians still reserve the right to accelerate this process

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