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re: Another school shooting - Maryland

Posted on 3/20/18 at 8:51 am to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58284 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 8:51 am to
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So you're ok with creating mental health problems but not treating mental health problems



You realize 0 perpetrators of school shootings have served in the military, right?

And while i agree, that mental health treatment should be better addressed for our military, why do you only want to take money out of the defense budget? Why can't we take it out of entitlement spending too? Or hell, why don't we actually fire the incompetent people that fail our servicemen at the VA?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 8:52 am to
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im just a fan of thinking about the 2nd and 3rd order effects of things and developing comprehensive solutions.


I get it. My issue is that right now we have folks who are pretending they are addressing the issue with a non-solution. Like, it literally does NOTHING to solve the main issue...dead kids at school.

In no way am I suggesting metal detectors solves everything forever as bad folks adjust to the new solution...but it actually addresses the issue in a way that could make a dent today.

Same for locking doors and making it so that you need to be buzzed in. My son's high school is like that. Were someone to walk into that area with a weapon or who was not supposed to be there during school hours they would not be buzzed in. Now...does that then mean that they could not walk back outside (or start there for that matter) and shoot randomly into windows? Well, obviously not. But would we not be better served addressing what we can NOW rather than waiting for what might be considered a comprehensive solution that would addresses all future scenarios?
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7236 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 8:53 am to
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How many of these shootings were done by those created (your words)? I haven't seen many shootings by "created" military problems.


The thing is, his liberal views don't need logic.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 8:54 am to
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You realize 0 perpetrators of school shootings have served in the military, right?


I think people are missing the host by focusing on school shootings only. Mass shootings are the issue as a whole. A student shooting up classmates and a disgruntled employee killing coworkers are too similar to separate IMO.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10393 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 8:57 am to
Internet and cell phones
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42936 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 8:58 am to
The younger generation lives in an “instantaneous” world. They expect everything to happen quickly, and when it doesn’t they throw in the towel.

Remember being picked on in school? It eventually stopped.
Remember that time your lights got cut off? Eventually you got them back on.
Remember when you were 16 and awkward and no girls liked you? Eventually you hit a growth spurt and matured.

Today’s youth don’t believe in “eventually”. If the tough times don’t end right away, they panic.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 8:59 am to
Serious question, out of roughly 325 million people, are school and workplace shootings that rampant? I mean we have drug related shootings daily around the country but those aren't popular to address. Why?
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26817 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:01 am to
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I mean we have drug related shootings daily around the country but those aren't popular to address. Why?


because Democrats can't blame anyone but their voters if that were the case
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:01 am to
Agreed, I believe our kids are going to struggle when they get out on their own. Until they learn to not panic over every little thing.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:01 am to
quote:

Serious question, out of roughly 325 million people, are school and workplace shootings that rampant? I mean we have drug related shootings daily around the country but those aren't popular to address. Why?


Mainly because these incident involve children. (not saying the others don't)
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:02 am to
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Agreed, I believe our kids are going to struggle when they get out on their own. Until they learn to not panic over every little thing


Look at how many people on tOT are on some kind of medication.


Just saying.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:02 am to
I agree with that, no one likes kids hurt.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:04 am to
We are all mental, some worse than others. That's just it, we all handle things differently, there is no one size fits all solution.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:04 am to
It's high time we banned assault people

or made murder illegal.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:05 am to
Lol, if it only worked that way.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:06 am to
quote:

We are all mental, some worse than others. That's just it, we all handle things differently, there is no one size fits all solution.


While I do agree with your premise, I feel that people are pushed to pills quicker than you can say the pills name.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:07 am to
Absolutely they are, no doubt about that.
Posted by Shooter
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
9356 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:08 am to
When the media stops idolizing the shooters.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71840 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:09 am to
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When the media stops idolizing the shooters.



You're a nobody and will never be special or relevant.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:09 am to
It's too bad that they won't do that because it brings the money in for them.
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