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re: Amtrak train derails & falls from bridge onto I-5 in Olympia, Washington, at least 3 dead
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:54 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:54 pm to fightin tigers
How is it after 188 years of having trains in the US we still can't get it right? It's embarrassing.
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Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:58 pm to fightin tigers
quote:No, the lead engine is off of the bridge. Those are the last two cars of the train still on the track.
Lead engine and the first car are still on the tracks.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:59 pm to TDsngumbo
Why passenger trains are not on "autopilot" is beyond me. The route NEVER changes!
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:00 pm to goldenbadger08
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No, the lead engine is off of the bridge. Those are the last two cars of the train still on the track.
We established that on the previous page. Hit that "Prev Page" and you'll find it.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:07 pm to redstick13
Sounded like people were still trying to figure it out. I was confirming.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:07 pm to RougeDawg
But the conditions do constantly, road crossings, switching to different tracks, working with maintenance operations, etc. There are a bunch of yards where the engines are controlled via remotely from a tower or a worker on the ground but these are low speed switching operations, just to many variables in mainline track setting for remote or auto operation.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:12 pm to redstick13
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How is it after 188 years of having trains in the US we still can't get it right? It's embarrassing.
Yep, pretty much everyday one is careening off a track killing boatloads of people.
Also, because it has been 8 pages and no one else posted it
YouTube link
Been in my head all day
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:31 pm to TDawg1313
If the speed limit was 30 and it was going 81...
Why in the heck would amtrak run high speed trains on a track that has a section that drops to 39 mph? Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose?
Conductor probably never realized the drop from 79 to 39.
Why in the heck would amtrak run high speed trains on a track that has a section that drops to 39 mph? Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose?
Conductor probably never realized the drop from 79 to 39.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:33 pm to fightin tigers
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Glad my fellow NW posters & fam are safe.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:33 pm to LSUFanHouston
Describes almost every route.
It is their job to know when to slow down.
It is their job to know when to slow down.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:33 pm to goldenbadger08
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No, the lead engine is off of the bridge. Those are the last two cars of the train still on the track.
This is what screwed with my head. I thought it was headed south. If I am looking at the map right then they would have been heading north. There was a tweet from a guy saying he got on the train in seattle at 6:00 am and rode for an hour, got off and ten minutes later it derailed.
ETA: there was a second rail bridge right down the road which I was looking at. Makes sense now.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:46 pm to flyAU
You're over-thinking it.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 9:52 pm to fightin tigers
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Amtrak Train 501 left Seattle at 6 a.m. local time as a new and controversial, high-speed service to Portland designed to avoid sharp curves, freight traffic and other obstacles that could slow the trip. The state Transportation Department said federal funds were used to upgrade the tracks for passenger train use and that the Federal Railroad Administration had monitored the work.
Sounds like they missed one of those sharp curves in the planning.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:02 pm to flyAU
It was headed south. The engine in the back was pushing the train (per guy on TV)
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:12 pm to Chicken
Looking at how the lead engine and cars are aligned it looks as if they were barely into the curve before derailing. That lead engine moved a lot of earth on its way down to I5.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:36 pm to redstick13
Apparently, the lead engine is the one one the highway. The engine on the track was the end of the train. Train was traveling right to left, based on previous comments.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:48 pm to northshorebamaman
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I wonder if any of the resident train experts can offer any theories based on what this guy heard:
I’m not a train expert. But didn’t the conductor relay a mayday call before the derail? Guy probably heard/felt the train trying to brake when conductor realized he was going to be going too fast into the curve.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:52 pm to White Roach
So the fatality count has gone down from 6 to 3?
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:53 pm to redstick13
quote:That's coming out of the curve.
it looks as if they were barely into the curve before derailing.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 10:53 pm to Golfer
Well so much for the whole idea of sitting middle to back as being safer eh, looks like the 4th car from the back took the worst of it? Whole middle got wrecked.
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