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re: Amtrak train derails & falls from bridge onto I-5 in Olympia, Washington, at least 3 dead

Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37613 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

would this train have a camera on the front?


I would assume all trains have forward looking cams now, no?

The Metra commuter trains in chicago all have them (they just got a grant in May to install new cameras throughout).
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
37909 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:54 pm to
Amtrak President said Positive Train Control was not activated at the time of derailment.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 2:55 pm to
Let's hear it for all that union labor in the PNW....
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51656 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:30 pm to
I foresee so many, many lawsuits coming. And it appears that it would be rightly so.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45574 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

Object on tracks may be cause of deadly Amtrak derailment



This probably wasn't an accident.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42938 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

My registered agent for my Washington Contractors License is in Olympia so by proxy I could have had the train fall on me. I am Literally SHAKING


No doubt it was a Christmas miracle that saved your life.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
37026 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Amtrak President said Positive Train Control was not activated at the time of derailment.


Googled PTC. You'd think there would be an interlock of some sort.

Anyone know anything about PTC?
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:03 pm to
Not sure if mentioned, but Mike Cernovich(?)

Found a report from an Antifa web blog, showing how they put concrete on train rails. And claimed they didnt care if it killed innocent, just as long as Rail workers weren't injured. And supported more Antifa warriors to do the same.

They deleted the blog, and it's sounding like there might of been something on the rails. No one is claiming this was a possible reason, but these turds have mentioned this as a target.

Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
5502 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

This probably wasn't an accident.

I was thinking this as well. I was looking at the Google maps image and there doesn’t appear to be a crossing just before the overpass but there does appear to be easy access to the track. And the track curves just before the accident location so that would be a perfect place for someone to ditch a vehicle. Supposedly there are quite a few people who weren’t happy with this new line.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

This probably wasn't an accident.



quote:

was thinking this as well. I was looking at the Google maps image and there doesn’t appear to be a crossing just before the overpass but there does appear to be easy access to the track




LINK

Al Qaeda magazine contains an 18-page guide on how to build a tool that could derail trains.

•The terrorist group singled out Britain, France, and America as targets.

• Train derailments are "not a martyrdom op" and "can be repeated," the magazine said.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:30 pm to
Link to article, and tweet that antifa posted.

Picture they showed of concrete on the rials was in Olympia.

LINK
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12473 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

@jonhumbert

NEW: Sound Transit confirms that the speed limit for trains along the
bridge curve is *30* mph.

Derailed train was going *81* mph per rail analysts Transit Doc.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79887 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

And the track curves just before the accident location so that would be a perfect place for someone to ditch a vehicle


The front of the train appears to have little or no damage.

Also it appears the first car (maybe two) stayed upright and on the track.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 4:58 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79887 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

SeeeeK


You realize in the article you linked Antifa says they alerted BNSF and laid a wire down to signal the train that the tracks were blocked.

Said they didnt want to cause harm, just stop/delay the trains.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

I'm struggling to figure out how all those cars got into the arrangement that they did.


That engine is probably the end of the train. So, the train was headed right to left in that picture. Derailed and flew off the bridge and track going into that little curve at the overpass.

The wreckage in the trees might be the lead engine, and once it was off the rails the rest of the train just keeps going straight in a line.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 5:11 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

You realize in the article you linked Antifa says they alerted BNSF and laid a wire down to signal the train that the tracks were blocked. Said they didnt want to cause harm, just stop/delay the trains.


They also said, they warned them, because they did not want to see Train Workers get injured. Wouldn't care if others did get injured.

They also told others to do the same to tracks. Not everyone will make the call to train co. So even egging that shite on is asinine and stupid, especially as dumb as 100% of these anarchists, Antifa, libs are.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79887 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:13 pm to
Lead engine and the first car are still on the tracks. The next two are to the right of the tracks and the rest appear to have gone straight into the forest (and over the bridge rail to the ground).
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79887 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

Wouldn't care if others did get injured.


Must have missed that, since it wasn't in the article.

And they posted their steps on how to accomplish that.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 5:16 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103937 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

Amtrak



More like Amnotontrak
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16282 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

I foresee so many, many lawsuits coming. And it appears that it would be rightly so.


Im sure there will be lawsuits but if there was something on the track that caused the train to derail then how is that the companies fault?
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