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re: Americans Say They Need to Earn $128,000 to Feel Financially OK.

Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:22 pm to
a cobb salad, mac and cheese, and sweet tea is without a doubt the strangest fast food order i have ever seen
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:35 pm to
I think Deenan in particular isn't granular enough at times, as I think the strain of excessive individualism is more tied to the experience settlers had in the New World, and thus deeply engrained in a particular type of American mythos. And that some of the implements of liberalism he criticizes, like feminism, ended up attempting to try to make that individualism its own thing, if that makes sense. Oddly enough, I found Deenan had something in common with other American writers, like Wendell Berry and Edward Abbey, as they all seem to be criticizing the same thing albeit from very different angles.

My personal view is that city design in the post-war era started a mass marketization of individualism, in ways that didn't necessarily exist before the war. Every city had to be designed around the car, around malls and other private spaces. There has to be some sense of balance between public and private spaces, as what makes private property uniquely valuable is not only the fact that it is private, but that it is not a public space, if that makes sense. Without that tension, the ownership of a thing becomes less meaningful, especially in light of just how much Americans in particular can own.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:53 pm to
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I think Deenan in particular isn't granular enough at times, as I think the strain of excessive individualism is more tied to the experience settlers had in the New World, and thus deeply engrained in a particular type of American mythos.


I've seen this point or a similar one made, but I can't recall where. Something along the lines of the novelty of American frontier-ism. I would guess Deenan himself, but it could be one of his cohorts (or perhaps a detractor - Rod Dreher maybe).

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My personal view is that city design in the post-war era started a mass marketization of individualism, in ways that didn't necessarily exist before the war. Every city had to be designed around the car, around malls and other private spaces. There has to be some sense of balance between public and private spaces, as what makes private property uniquely valuable is not only the fact that it is private, but that it is not a public space, if that makes sense. Without that tension, the ownership of a thing becomes less meaningful, especially in light of just how much Americans in particular can own.



It does make sense. Scarcity or something akin to that. And it's of course ongoing in other areas. We've stripped the significance from things/life events/accomplishments across the board.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 5:00 pm to
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Populations are supposed to grow. We are living in 1960's era infrastructure when the country is 150 million people larger.




There are TOO MANY PEOPLE .

Blaming it on politicians or infrastructure is the biggest reach ive ever heard .
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:18 pm to
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There are TOO MANY PEOPLE .

Blaming it on politicians or infrastructure is the biggest reach ive ever heard .


Counterpoint: No there are not too many people.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:22 pm to
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Counterpoint: No there are not too many people.



Counter-counter point: there are too many people wanting to live the same lifestyle in the same parts of the country
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:26 pm to
Yep, white collar jobs are too concentrated in about 10-15 metros.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:32 pm to
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Counter-counter point: there are too many people wanting to live the same lifestyle in the same parts of the country



I dont know.. i mean, i drive a lot for work, and have spent countless hours of windshield time on the highways and byways of Texas, Louisiana, Tennessee , Georgia and others- and just trying to get from A to B on a freaking weekday- even pre Pan- is like going into fighting a war…. Not even so much that people are terrible drivers (they are, mostly) but becuase there are so damn many of them.. same with deciding to go to pick up something at the store, or going to get ur oil changed.. I definitely dont have all the answers, and i dont know much- but one thing i know is that people having more and more and more children (*especially* when they cant easily afford them) is NOT the answer.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:36 pm to
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there are too many people wanting to live the same lifestyle in the same parts of the country


That may be, but I also think this is due to excessive centralization. Between major cities, large portions of the US look like a wasteland. People generally go where the jobs are, though, and I don't know if we will ever break the hold of this very specific pattern of centralization. Yeah people want to live certain types of lives in LA, for example, but I think cities also impose a certain type of lifestyle on people too.

Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:20 am to
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I pay 350 (lol) a month for 3 cars. shite blows lmao.


You are either young or have a young driver on your policy. When I was in my late teens and early 20's my parents insurance company dropped the whole family and I was forced to go out and get it on my own. I was paying 550 a month for insurance on one Chevy truck. The note was almost 200 dollars less than the insurance.
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