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re: Americans are weak….prescription medication.

Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:32 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260191 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:32 am to
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A lot of American’s are only alive because of their insulin or the pills that keep their blood from clogging up with sausage McMuffins.


Which leads to weakness.
Life expectancy is way up, but I doubt the quality of life is that great for most after 60.

The quest for utopia creates weak humans.
Posted by K E V 8 4
Member since Jul 2010
608 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:36 am to
Direct advertising of prescription medicine is one of several factors to blame. For you youngsters, this was a response from ChatGPT to my question on this topic (note the last, bolded bit):

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Direct-to-consumer advertising (DTCA) of prescription medicine started to become more widespread in the United States in the 1980s, but it wasn't until the 1990s that the rules governing this type of advertising began to change.

In 1997, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued a guidance that allowed pharmaceutical companies to advertise prescription drugs directly to consumers, provided that the ads met certain requirements. This guidance paved the way for the current regulations, which are outlined in the FDA's "Guidance for Industry: Consumer-Directed Broadcast Advertisements".

Under these regulations, prescription drug ads must include certain information about the drug's risks and benefits, and must also provide a way for consumers to get more information about the drug, such as a toll-free number or website. The FDA reviews and approves all prescription drug ads before they can be broadcast or published.

It's worth noting that the U.S. is one of the few countries in the world that allows DTCA of prescription medicine. Many other countries, including Canada and most European countries, prohibit or restrict this type of advertising.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6912 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:36 am to
Ammericans are most likely overmedicated. I went to a new family practitioner a little over 2 years ago after moving cross country. During the first exam he mentioned that I had not listed my prescriptions. I told him I had none. I was 54 at the time. He said a many my age is usually on something. I jokingly said "none of y'all have got your hooks in me yet" to which he responded "well, I'll fix that!".

He didn't that time but about 6 months ago he did LOL. He remembered telling me that when he finally did. He is a good dude...very personable and will joke a little during a visit.

My dad is 84, has diabetes, has survived cancer twice and takes about 20 different prescription meds a day and almost that many supplements. I am convinced he would have died years ago without prescription meds and going to the doctor at least once a week. For a 84 year old he is pretty healthy....better living through chemistry can work....
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15056 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:37 am to
Well let's see. I'm now 70 and enjoyed great health for the better part of 55 years. Then I did some blood work at the advice of my Dr. and it showed I had high cholesterol, which is understandable with the diet of S.E. Louisiana and the fact my dad's side of the family is pre-disposed to it.

Then it morphed into higher than normal blood pressure, again genetically pre-disposed. No male on my dads side of the family lived to be 60 with an uncle and my dad dying suddenly of heart attacks in their mid 30's

Add to that I've been suffering from kidney stones for the past 20 years and I'm now on 4 different meds every day.

So I'm on drugs for blood pressure, cholesterol and to help keep stones from forming as easily as they have in the past.

Live long enough and you'll likely be in the same, or similar boat. Getting older ain't for the squeamish.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6543 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:39 am to
Big Pharma and psychologists after inventing ADHD::



Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117685 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:42 am to
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doubt the quality of life is that great for most after 60.



Dead is dead.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6912 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:42 am to
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Direct correlation to our rapid increase in sedentary lifestyles, IMO. Human beings aren't supposed to sit and stare at computer screens for 10+ hours per day.



FACTS! Probably not built to live more than about 50 or 60 years either, and definitely not with ease and abundance of food available today. Having reached the ripe old age of 57 I for one am thankful for drugs LOL. I am only on one for some prostate issues but it works. My dad at 84 has convinced me that medical science can keep a man alive a lOOOONNNGGGGG time. He has been overweight his entire life and at 84 is still going pretty strong....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6912 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:46 am to
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Which leads to weakness.
Life expectancy is way up, but I doubt the quality of life is that great for most after 60.

The quest for utopia creates weak humans.


I disagree on the quality of life issues. I am certain it is so with many people but they probably had little QOL to begin with. I know a bunch of folks in their 70s and 80s who are very active and healthy...they go to a lot of doctor appointments but they golf, fish, hunt and work in their shops when they ain't at the doctors office. I am sure many people wither away at 60, especially after retiring, but many do not....
Posted by Kansas City King
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2020
2300 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 9:53 am to
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Does this include women and birth control? Image that would push the % up

That's the problem with this thread. People acting like that 70% of people is all Adderall prescriptions.
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
1636 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 10:18 am to
Gout is a MFer
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9416 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 10:36 am to
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And those that got the vax are stupid as well



Posted by ronniep1
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
393 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 10:38 am to
Should I go back and curse my mom and dad for both having high blood pressure, and passing that condition down to me through my genetic make-up?

I'm on two blood pressure medications, and I take Ozempic injections to control my blood sugar.

I can assure you that I take none of these prescriptions by choice. However, by taking/using them, I lead an otherwise normal and productive life.
Posted by tiger09
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
220 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 10:48 am to
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A lot of medication is used to extend life beyond historical averages. Most notably blood pressure and cholesterol medicines. These are often hereditary issues in which “ normal “ living people would have died in their 70s but can now live until 90s.


^This^

I had some gritty and tough Great Depression era relatives. They would talk about how the good old days weren’t so good. I specifically remember them talking about how a cold could be the death of you…after it leads to bronchitis that turns into pneumonia. They liked modern medicine.

But… if your point is that Americans are unhealthy and weak (in so many regards) I do agree with you.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 10:51 am
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65494 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:09 am to
I’ll let my blood pressure stay high if it means not succumbing to the woke agenda
Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
3445 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:26 am to
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Kickbacks are a thing baw


The great majority of prescriptions are cheap old generics that no one gets kick backs from. Most maintenance drugs are available so cheap that 3rd party reimbursement is based on compliance with just picking it up on time.

We are weak on controlling costs and availability. Americans are being taken advantage of on rx drugs. They think they are getting a good deal subverting high insurance copays with Goodrx coupons...but in reality they are paying for the insurance that is supposed to cover it and then not using it. The insurance won't cover cheap generics until ridiculous deductibles are met. Therefore the current rx insurance system is like a discount membership for which free alternatives exist.

Keep in mind the 3rd parties see and control the published discount prices online and they just set your copays above that. I don't think this should be legal and it's happening to Medicare patients.

Most pharmacies would prefer to have reasonable prices without middlemen but have to participate in the 3rd party pricing game.

Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15056 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:48 am to
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I’ll let my blood pressure stay high if it means not succumbing to the woke agenda




Woke Agenda???? You mean the one that can help avoid a possible stroke, heart attack or other life threatening medical emergency.............
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42252 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:51 am to
I take a daily prescription medication for my asthma. I have a noticeable uptick in likelihood of having asthma issues if I don’t take it. Should I just not take it?
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 11:54 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68092 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 11:54 am to
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Kickbacks are a thing baw
How does this work?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30551 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:03 pm to
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Get a damn hobby! Go to the gym! There is absolutely zero reason for this statistic to be so high.

So you’re assuming all these people are fat or depressed? That’s a huge assumption
Posted by Mr Clean
Pit Bull Paradise
Member since Aug 2006
49096 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:06 pm to
I’m on several non narcotic prescriptions.

A year ago. I was running up to 9 miles. Now I can barely walk
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