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re: American Bar Association drops LSAT requirement for Law School admissions
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:25 pm to Cs
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:25 pm to Cs
quote:
dropping the testing requirement would increase diversity
I don't know about you but if my life or financial security is on the line, I only want an unqualified black trans drag queen representing my interests.
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:34 pm to 19557LSU
quote:
If the LSAT score a non factor in admissions, how does this ruling make one bit of difference?
It's not a non-factor.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:49 pm to Joshjrn
Damn you are some dumb.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:54 pm to Cs
Saw a couple of threads on this topic that include discussions on LSAT, the BAR and law school in general. I ran across this interesting historical note in my "V-Mail" from the National WWII Museum of which I am a supporter.
Robert H. Jackson was the US Chief Prosecutor at Nuremberg. He had also been the US Solicitor General, US Attorney General and Associate Justice of the US Supreme Court.
All without graduating from law school.
Robert H. Jackson was the US Chief Prosecutor at Nuremberg. He had also been the US Solicitor General, US Attorney General and Associate Justice of the US Supreme Court.
All without graduating from law school.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 2:00 pm to Cs
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This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 10:08 am
Posted on 11/19/22 at 2:11 pm to Cs
I have no words
Posted on 11/19/22 at 2:53 pm to DaTruth7
quote:
Damn you are some dumb.
I’m sure you have extensive experience in applying to law schools, attending them, taking the Bar, and practicing law. Due to that, please tell me why you believe my position is “dumb”.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 3:24 pm to Cs
Its like there aren’t enough starving lawyers around.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 3:26 pm to Cs
As if there already arent too many lawyers
Posted on 11/19/22 at 3:27 pm to Joshjrn
You can deflect all you want but this is just part of the march towards insanity.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 3:32 pm to Cs
"Lower the Standards" by Karl Shapiro
Lower the standard: that’s my motto.
Somebody is always pushing the food out of reach.
We’re tired of falling off ladders.
Who says a child can’t paint?
A pro is somebody who does it for money.
Lower the standards.
Let’s all play poetry.
Down with ideals, flags, convention buttons, morals, the scrambled eggs on the admiral’s hat.
I’m talking sense. Lower the standards.
Sabotage the stylistic approach.
Let weeds grow in the subdivision.
Putty up the incisions in the library
facade, those names that frighten grade-school teachers, those names whose U’s
are cut like V’s.
Burn the Syntopican and The Harvard Classics.
Lower the standard on classics, battleships, Russian ballet, national anthems (but they’re low
enough).
Break through to the bottom. Be natural as an American abroad who knows no language, not even American. Keelhaul the poets in the vestry chairs.
Renovate the Abbey of cold-storage dreamers.
Get off the Culture Wagon.
Learn how to walk the way you want.
Slump your shoulders, stick your belly out, arms
all over the table.
How many generations will this take?
Don’t think about it, just make a start.
(You have made a start.)
Don’t break anything you can step around, but don’t pick it up.
The law of gravity is the law of art.
You first, poetry second, the good, the beautiful, the true come at last.
As the lad said: We must love one another or die.”
Lower the standard: that’s my motto.
Somebody is always pushing the food out of reach.
We’re tired of falling off ladders.
Who says a child can’t paint?
A pro is somebody who does it for money.
Lower the standards.
Let’s all play poetry.
Down with ideals, flags, convention buttons, morals, the scrambled eggs on the admiral’s hat.
I’m talking sense. Lower the standards.
Sabotage the stylistic approach.
Let weeds grow in the subdivision.
Putty up the incisions in the library
facade, those names that frighten grade-school teachers, those names whose U’s
are cut like V’s.
Burn the Syntopican and The Harvard Classics.
Lower the standard on classics, battleships, Russian ballet, national anthems (but they’re low
enough).
Break through to the bottom. Be natural as an American abroad who knows no language, not even American. Keelhaul the poets in the vestry chairs.
Renovate the Abbey of cold-storage dreamers.
Get off the Culture Wagon.
Learn how to walk the way you want.
Slump your shoulders, stick your belly out, arms
all over the table.
How many generations will this take?
Don’t think about it, just make a start.
(You have made a start.)
Don’t break anything you can step around, but don’t pick it up.
The law of gravity is the law of art.
You first, poetry second, the good, the beautiful, the true come at last.
As the lad said: We must love one another or die.”
Posted on 11/19/22 at 3:38 pm to NIH
quote:
You can deflect all you want but this is just part of the march towards insanity.
I'm not deflecting anything. If you want to make a slippery slope argument, be my guest. Neither of us can prove the future. But if we are talking about this one change, it just doesn't matter. Prior to this change, no applicant was barred from attending law school because their LSAT score wasn't high enough. Any law school could take whatever applicant they wanted, regardless of relative LSAT scores. Going forward, law schools are allowed to mandate LSAT scores if they so choose. And the ABA will still come down on law schools that don't have high Bar passage rates.
In short, everyone can decry this "culture shift", and that's fine. But the people on this thread pretending as though this will have any kind of effect on the number of attorneys in the market, or on the quality of attorneys in the market, are simply ignorant, and I mean that in the purest, least insulting sense possible.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 3:42 pm to Joshjrn
Everyone saying “slippery slope” for a decade has been proven right time and again. Next step is to gut the bar exam.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 3:44 pm to NIH
quote:
Everyone saying “slippery slope” for a decade has been proven right time and again. Next step is to gut the bar exam.
I wouldn't support gutting it, but it certainly needs a revamp. It's utter garbage at ensuring that someone is competent to practice law
Posted on 11/19/22 at 3:44 pm to Proximo
quote:
But it’s a nothing burger to joshjrn
Cause he’s so woke.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 3:44 pm to Joshjrn
Objection! I mean, question. I has 3rd grade education, I can be lawyer now? Sustain! 
Posted on 11/19/22 at 3:47 pm to sqerty
quote:
Objection! I mean, question. I has 3rd grade education, I can be lawyer now? Sustain!
The ABA still requires you to graduate from an accredited law school. Sorry, love <3
Posted on 11/19/22 at 3:48 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:
Cause he’s so woke.
Yep, it's because I'm "woke", not because I'm one of the few on this thread who has ever taken the LSAT and actually knows what they are talking about
ETA: Because I imagine you didn't actually read the article linked in the OP, here's a statement in the article from someone who you would likely say is all eaten up with wokeness:
quote:
Assistant Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid at the University of California, Berkeley School of Law, Kristen Theis-Alvarez, told the WSJ that dropping the requirement to increase diversity might actually have reverse effects. “We believe that removal of the testing requirement could actually increase the very disparities proponents seek to reduce by increasing the influence of bias in the review process,” Theis-Alvarez said according to the WSJ.
This post was edited on 11/19/22 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 11/19/22 at 3:49 pm to Cs
Well as an old lawyer this saddens me
Posted on 11/19/22 at 3:52 pm to TutHillTiger
quote:
accredited law school
That's cool, I go to Southern!
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