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Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:02 am to fr33manator
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They just weren't advanced. And the thusly were conquered by more advanced peoples. Suggesting that sub-Saharan Africans contributed to scientific advancement instead of Visa-versa is just asinine and anti-history.
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And the thusly were conquered by more advanced peoples.
they But I am not going to attack your grammar. You were probably typing fast (like me) and made a mistake.
This is why grammar attacks on the internet are not good for a supporting argument.
But as you said, they were not advanced. How is that any different than the Native Americans. The Chinese and Japanese were intelligent, but they were not capable of stopping the British or American Empires.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:02 am to volod
Only city that is modern on that list is Capetown because of the modern sewerage system.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:04 am to volod
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And for the record, other races were not exactly the best at civilization building either. Whites today adore the Japanese, but no one brings up that fact that after the Sengoku Jidai they were basically an isolationist country with no technological advancement for 200+ years until the US forced trade. And the few guns they did have were 16th century trades from the Portuguese
After the renaissance the Western World was far and away the most technologically superior. I don't think anyone would argue that.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:10 am to fr33manator
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nly 3 of those seven were even true sub-Saharan empires. It's not a slight, it's a fact.
3 is better than none, which is the point I was trying to make.
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Afrocentrism is a rejection of fact in order to support a fantasy.
Never said I supported it. I was just making a point that they created an Empire. You could say the same thing about the Aztecs and Mayans. Those societies never reach Middle Ages level of technology , but they still accomplished many things.
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You can be proud of where you come from without believing in absolute poppycock.
I do not believe in poppycock, I recognize the goods and bads of all civilizations. I try to learn from their mistakes.
At the same time, I am not blinded by the success of western civilizations. Rome thought it was too big to fail and so did the Ottoman Empire.
A civilization greatness is not only in its physical achievements. It also lies in ability to fight inner-corruption within itself. That is the lesson no one on here wants to admit.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:13 am to fr33manator
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After the renaissance the Western World was far and away the most technologically superior. I don't think anyone would argue that.
I completely agree.
But in addition to the Renaissance, other countries were very isolationists (African, Eastern, certain Middle-Eastern)
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:13 am to volod
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they But I am not going to attack your grammar. You were probably typing fast (like me) and made a mistake. This is why grammar attacks on the internet are not good for a supporting argument.
Hoisted by my own petard. Fair point.
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But as you said, they were not advanced. How is that any different than the Native Americans. The Chinese and Japanese were intelligent, but they were not capable of stopping the British or American Empires.
I don't think it's any different. Better weapons tech and strategy and the scientific edge, plus the drive to explore and the will to conquer is what made the peoples of the west the best at it in the age of exploration. The mongols had an incredible run as well.
I've honestly forgotten what the argument was.
But George Washington Carver definitely didn't invent peanuts. And Jackson is a shithole.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:15 am to RLDSC FAN
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Amazon developing show where black people control the south by RLDSC FAN
They already control much of it...see Birmingham, NOLA, or the State of Mississippi.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:16 am to LordSaintly
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That was a terrible movie
I immediately thought of the movie when I saw this thread. But it took me a minute to google and actually recall how fricking stupid that shite was.
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Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:17 am to volod
The Aztecs and Mayans didn't get into the Iron Age because there wasn't much iron to work with however they figured out a lot of farming stuff that the Spanish copied off them. For instance, they domesticated the tomato which originally was poisonous
Also the Romans fell because they took in too many refugees
Also the Romans fell because they took in too many refugees
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:32 am to RLDSC FAN
I thought they already made this show. It's called COPS right?
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:36 am to RLDSC FAN
McGruder?
I'm interested.
I'm interested.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:25 pm to trillhog
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didn't read the thread but do people really think things would be much different? have you seen africa? is there even one modern city over there.
Nairobi, Kenya
Lagos, Nigeria
Harare, Zimbabwe
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:28 pm to RLDSC FAN
People literally went crazy over an alternate history series that was going to be on HBO I believe that was about what things would be like had the Confederates won the war. Those same people will stay silent here.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:45 pm to Northshore Saint
That looks like a huge slum in the foreground of that first Lagos pic
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:55 pm to volod
Being upset about a fictional movie is a bit ridiculous.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 6:57 pm to aparke7
Posted on 8/2/17 at 7:01 pm to LSUTANGERINE
All I see are people giving their opinions on what it would be like,kind of hard to argue given all of the examples
Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:37 am to aparke7
I mean ok my original point is still standing high
Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:45 am to RLDSC FAN
Wait... haven't we already seen a series like this in cities like Oakland, New Orleans, Detroit, Chicago, D.C.? Is this show going to be about absolute dysfunction and lack of ability to govern?
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