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re: Am I the only one who thinks this new City of SG is turning into a large cluster frick?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 2:01 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 6/30/24 at 2:01 pm to LSURussian
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Does it mean the 2% sales tax stays with Baton Rouge or does it mean the 2% sales tax goes away completely?
It's currently a parish tax. The election is to transfer the tax dollars collected by that tax, in the new city boundaries, to the new city. Because in theory, the new city will have to provide certain government services instead of the parish.
This type of vote is not normal (for example, Harahan residents could not vote to send certain Jefferson Parish tax dollars directly to Harahan city goverment) but this is allowed because of the uniqueness of incorporating a city.
If the vote fails, then the money would not be transferred. The tax revenue would stay going to the parish.
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In either case, how will StG fund its operations since the 2% sales tax was the largest funding source in their budget?
Would be a mess because the Lawrason Act and other state laws require the municipality to pay certain things. So you would have a situation where EBR Parish would be relieved of certain responsibilities, but get to keep the money.
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 2:07 pm to Capitalist
98 posts.
Definitely legit.
Definitely legit.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 2:17 pm to LSURussian
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Those areas have been part of Baton Rouge for a 2 or 3 years now. Have you heard about any of them who "regret" their decision? I haven't.
That group was openly virtue signaling. If they regret the decision they won’t state it publicly.
The better gauge of those opinions will be how many that that annexed after the vote quietly withdraw the request and become a part of St. George. It will also be interesting to see if any businesses in United Plaza simply move across the street to reduce their tax burden.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 2:18 pm to Capitalist
It can’t be any worse than Baton Rouge. If anything you know the crime is lower.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 2:30 pm to LSURussian
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Those areas have been part of Baton Rouge for a 2 or 3 years now. Have you heard about any of them who "regret" their decision? I haven't.
I haven’t either.
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Currently there are 24 patrol sheriff deputies assigned to the single substation located within the StG city limits, or 8 patrol deputies per shift covering an area of 60 square miles for 86,000 residents which comes to 1 sheriff's deputy for every 3,583 residents and .4 sheriff deputies per square mile.
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But just to bring the number of deputies up to the number of BRPD officers based on population the sheriff is going to have to add approximately 250 additional deputies or if the same ratio of deputies per square mile as Baton Rouge has is desired, the sheriff will have to add approximately 450 additional deputies.
I believe most of us are happy with the current Sheriff and our deputies. I think we are happy with the service we get, but the thing is we see the danger from north of us and we want to do better.
But 450 additional deputies? No, that isn’t necessary at all. Btw BR has about 227,000 people and SG is reported to have about 86,000 people. Crime is way lower. We don’t need near the number of cops that BR does.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 2:36 pm to LSURussian
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LSURussian
Keep melting
Posted on 6/30/24 at 3:32 pm to BigBinBR
For residents, neighbors along the boundary line can request to be annexed in. We just missed out on our house. I wouldn't mind being in, it beats the school system choice we have out here.
Worst case scenario, Baby BTB is going to be living at mawmaw's address for school.
Worst case scenario, Baby BTB is going to be living at mawmaw's address for school.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 3:33 pm to LSURussian
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I’m wondering if the businesses who annexed, when they’re waiting forever for BRPD to show up and work a shooting will regret their decision.
Those areas have been part of Baton Rouge for a 2 or 3 years now. Have you heard about any of them who "regret" their decision? I haven't.
Wasn’t there a certain time frame afterwards where BR’s additional taxes were not going to hit them, additional services not done for them initially, and for a few areas they got the sheriff to continue to be main source of patrols and response.
It seems like that time would be up by now and likely for awhile, and BR should be offering anything that was city only and collecting the additional taxes. Its just initially not much changed for them. I also wondered if Businesses were given any other tax incentives or abatements.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 3:38 pm to dallastigers
It’s hard to say,
I know there was some kind of deal worked out between the Sheriff and BRPD and SGFD and BRFD about some of these “crossover” properties.
I know there was some kind of deal worked out between the Sheriff and BRPD and SGFD and BRFD about some of these “crossover” properties.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 3:44 pm to LSURussian
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LSURussian
There she is.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 3:47 pm to Capitalist
Go to council meeting, address the council with your concerns, volunteer to serve on committees, get experience in public service then run for office
Posted on 6/30/24 at 3:51 pm to Capitalist
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Am I the only one who thinks this new City of SG is turning into a large cluster frick?
It’s in Louisiana. Cluster fricks are inevitable
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:03 pm to LSURussian
You went from this
And someone responded with this
And then your rebuttal was
I have to ask you, are you actually retarded?
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Only about 20% of the residents of St George (17,422 out of 86,000) voted to incorporate a new city. That means about 80% of its residents didn't vote in favor of it.
And someone responded with this
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Or you could say 80+% didn’t vote against it.
And then your rebuttal was
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You could say that but you'd be wrong if you did.
Of the 86,000 residents of StG, 14,871 of them DID vote against incorporation.
I have to ask you, are you actually retarded?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:12 pm to doubleb
quote:The U.S. Census Bureau as of July 1, 2023 estimated the population of the city of Baton Rouge to be 219,573 which is what I used in the computations above.
Btw BR has about 227,000 people
LINK
quote:I agree. But there is no doubt in my mind the sheriff will have to increase the number of deputies patrolling the StG area.
But 450 additional deputies? No, that isn’t necessary at all.
How many additional deputies will the StG mayor and council do you believe they will ask for?
You forget that the sheriff had a reciprocal agreement with the BRPD whereby he could call on city police to help out in the unincorporated area which became St George when his deputies became overloaded. I seriously doubt if the city of BR will be as agreeable to do that now.
quote:Of course the criminal gangs in north Baton Rouge and in the "Bottom" will honor the St George city limit signs and turnaround instead of crossing into StG to perform their mayhem. Right??
SG is reported to have about 86,000 people. Crime is way lower. We don’t need near the number of cops that BR does.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:15 pm to Giantkiller
quote:I always know when I've struck a nerve which another poster can't refute with facts and figures so instead a personal attack is made instead. That goes for jorconalx as well.
There she is.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:18 pm to doubleb
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They can not. They are counting on the 2% funding the city.
I think the transition district has the authority to levie/transfer the taxes without an election, but that district would also legally end at the end of the quarter following the tax vote.
The vote approving the taxes as municipal taxes is required for the city to take over the authority of taxes after the transition period. I guess it technically would still exist and could try to hang on for a few months, but when it’s all said and done Baton Rouge would get StG’s money again. BR may just have to wait until incorporation officially reversed.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:29 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Does it mean the 2% sales tax stays with Baton Rouge or does it mean the 2% sales tax goes away completely?
quote:It's a city sales tax, not a parish sales tax. At least according to this website:
It's currently a parish tax.
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What is the sales tax rate in Baton Rouge, Louisiana?
The minimum combined 2024 sales tax rate for Baton Rouge, Louisiana is 9.95%. This is the total of state, parish and city sales tax rates. The Louisiana sales tax rate is currently 4.45%. The Parish sales tax rate is 0%. The Baton Rouge sales tax rate is 5.5%.
And also this website:
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Baton Rouge, Louisiana Sales Tax Rate 2024
Taxing Jurisdiction Rate
Louisiana State 4.45%
East Baton Rouge Parish N/A
Baton Rouge (City) 5%
Special District N/A
Combined Sales Tax: 9.45%
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:37 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
quote:ISD don’t typically follow city boundaries exactly. If you are right on he boundary there is a good chance that you may still be included in the ISD (whenever there is one).
For residents, neighbors along the boundary line can request to be annexed in. We just missed out on our house. I wouldn't mind being in, it beats the school system choice we have out here.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:43 pm to LSURussian
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No one ever said StG students would not be eligible to attend EBR School System schools as soon as a new StG city was established.
bullshite. You are trying to revise history.
Together Baton Rouge was telling everyone that there kids could not go to BRHS if the city was voted in.
Here is an article from 2019 from WAFB where they are trying to play on people’s fears. WAFB July 2019
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Nearly 2,000 St. George kids attend magnet schools or participate in gifted programs outside the proposed city limits. The parish school board would likely have the final say on whether those students could continue at their current schools.
Roughly another 1,000 live in Baton Rouge proper and attend magnet schools inside the proposed city limits. Their future is also uncertain.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:43 pm to LSURussian
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Of course the criminal gangs in north Baton Rouge and in the "Bottom" will honor the St George city limit signs and turnaround instead of crossing into StG to perform their mayhem. Right??
I don’t dismiss the danger. I believe SG needs to up its game. I think we need to be proactive and we need to clean up our gangs and let the other gangs in the surrounding areas know we aren’t a place to do business.
We do need to increase patrols. How many more deputies would we need? That’s a great question that I am not qualified to answer.
But consider the alternative and SG lost. The Sheriff’s patrols wouldn’t increase and the unincorporated SG area would still be in danger. I submit to you that if the thugs got more and more brazen out here the Sheriff would have to react anyway, right?
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