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re: Am I overthinking my résumé and cover letter?
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:41 pm to Slagathor
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:41 pm to Slagathor
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ETA: Are you applying for jobs outside of city/state where you live?
I am.
I actually have two academic publications but was told by a friend to not include them if the topics don't pertain to the position.
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:41 pm to Slagathor
i have always had a standard one page resume, and a long-form resume that I provide on request. This has worked for me. Good luck.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:42 pm to StringedInstruments
You want to look qualified but not under or over qualified.
I would agree if the pubs cannot be linked to the current job they bring little if anything to the table.
What type of job are you seeking?
I would agree if the pubs cannot be linked to the current job they bring little if anything to the table.
What type of job are you seeking?
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:44 pm to 756
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What type of job are you seeking?
It really is across the board. I've applied to everything from community college teaching positions to video editing jobs to public relations to technical writing to corporate training.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:46 pm to StringedInstruments
I'm in law school, and resumes are a huge deal in the legal world. Best piece of advice on a resume, keep it to a page. Employers that have to go through a bunch of resumes at a time don't want to take the time to read a long one.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:46 pm to StringedInstruments
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I am.
Are you applying for positions that will likely include relocation expenses? For 90% of the positions that my company will be offering in the next year, we can easily scoop up someone local (college town), so we will pass up anyone looking to move here. So it might not be you, it could be the limitations of the position.
quote:I agree, unless they're relevant leave them off.
I actually have two academic publications but was told by a friend to not include them if the topics don't pertain to the position.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:48 pm to StringedInstruments
Definitely need to get the resume down to one page, absolutely no question about that.
Cover letter really shouldn't be longer than two or three paragraphs, either, unless there are exceptional circumstances.
Tailoring resumes and cover letters is the right call, but don't over-do it.
Cover letter really shouldn't be longer than two or three paragraphs, either, unless there are exceptional circumstances.
Tailoring resumes and cover letters is the right call, but don't over-do it.
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:48 pm to StringedInstruments
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I've been tailoring my résumé and cover letter for every job opening that I've applied to.
You are overthinking yourself
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I've also read differing opinions on how long a résumé and cover letter should be. Both of mine are two pages each, and that includes almost 10 years of relevant experience.
It's OK if your Resume is 2 pages long but not longer, You want your cover letter to be short sweet and to the pont right at half a page ....centered
Also understand if you are sending to all of the openings online like on Indeed or even Monster, you are getting thrown in there with at least 100 others. You have at best 10-11 seconds to catch and hold the reader's attention nowadays
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:48 pm to StringedInstruments
My resume and cover letter were 1 page each. The way that it was explained to me, and the way that I think it makes sense is that the resume is the data and the cover letter is just to explain what the resume means, to give it context, and to demonstrate some written communication skill. I think you're giving them too much for initial point of contact. Leave some of that stuff for the interview process. Also, same as in dating, try not to come across as too desperate.
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:49 pm to StringedInstruments
I hire about 100 people a year. At no point has a resume made or broke an interview. Just put where you have worked in the past that relate to the job. Sell your personality and ability to work with others well. Take direction and be somewhat of a yes man. You'll do fine.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:51 pm to StringedInstruments
Remember the purpose of your cover letter and CV is only to land you an interview. So don't try to do all your "selling" on paper. Keep your cover letter to a couple of paragraphs covering as to why you are interested and feel you are a good candidate. In your CV, focus on listing accomplishments more than job duties and responsibilities unless it is to highlight that you've done some of the exact same things that the position will call for.
Keep in mind that almost everyone's social media profile will be reviewed as well.
Good luck.
Keep in mind that almost everyone's social media profile will be reviewed as well.
Good luck.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:54 pm to StringedInstruments
I've never written a cover letter, and I don't think it's hampered me at all. I landed my most recent job from LinkedIn.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 3:05 pm to Slagathor
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Are you applying for positions that will likely include relocation expenses? For 90% of the positions that my company will be offering in the next year, we can easily scoop up someone local (college town), so we will pass up anyone looking to move here. So it might not be you, it could be the limitations of the position.
I'm okay with relocation expenses. We have some savings to spend if we need to. We also don't have a lot of stuff and have moved a few times in the past few years.
I definitely understand the "college kid wins" dilemma. As my buddy put it - "you're too experienced for an entry-level job but not experienced enough for management." He said his ad agency can hire a 23 year old kid out of college for $35k, little benefits, and zero time off. Then make them work 10 hours a day for a few years before promoting them.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 3:14 pm to StringedInstruments
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StringedInstruments
I'm saying that you are possibly being too hard on yourself... I would discount any positions that you were passed over for that didn't expressly include relocation costs in the posting. You may not even have been considered because of geography even if you would be willing to relocate.
Unfortunately, 10 years of experience is tough because hiring managers might also preclude you thinking you're going to want too much money (even if you would actually take the job for what they want to offer). As with all things, hang in there and keep at it!
I sincerely wish you the best!
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 2/19/18 at 3:17 pm to StringedInstruments
The fast food industry doesn't require all of this.
Well, except maybe Chik-fil-a. Is that where you are applying?
Well, except maybe Chik-fil-a. Is that where you are applying?
Posted on 2/19/18 at 3:28 pm to StringedInstruments
Unless you're applying to a very vast range of jobs across multiple industries, you do not need to tailor your resume for every single opening. Have three or four formats that would fit all the jobs you apply. Two pages is OK.
Cover letter on the other hand needs to tailored for every job, keep it one page for sure.
Good luck.
Cover letter on the other hand needs to tailored for every job, keep it one page for sure.
Good luck.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 3:39 pm to Brosef Stalin
One page resume used to be he norm bc you physically printed out paper and submitted. One page was neat and tidy. Now days most resumes are emailed and should include any RELEVANT info. It’s not hard to scroll down to a 2nd page. The biggest point is to include useful info.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 3:47 pm to StringedInstruments
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Both of mine are two pages each, and that includes almost 10 years of relevant experience.
DUDE.
No HR person getting paid 40-50k a year is reading some bullshite 2 page cover letter. Two paragraphs, tops.
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and that includes almost 10 years of relevant experience.
a 10 year CV should still fit into a page or page and a half.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 3:57 pm to 756
How would you address a cover letter if you don’t know the name of the person who will review it?
Posted on 2/19/18 at 4:00 pm to StringedInstruments
I have done a lot of recruiting for my firm's over the years and have seen thousands of resumes (legal field, not academia so there admittedly could be differences). I would keep resume to 1 page - if you can tailor in that space, I recommend it. Single page cover letter. Right or wrong, I tend to either not read the cover letter or read it more superficially if longer than 1.
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