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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:10 pm to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:10 pm to BluegrassBelle
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What's upsetting to me is that I see two men who took on a pretty thankless job these days to protect a community and that community is now calling for their deaths for doing their job.
Sad isn't it? Glad this fact isn't lost
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:10 pm to lsuhunt555
I carry in my vehicle and on my person, and you wanna know what I do when I get pulled over? It certainly isn't fighting with the cops while reaching for my gun
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:11 pm to MightyYat
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hen why the frick are you arguing in this thread?
I think the police handled it less than adequate from the onset. Although I am convinced at least one officer thought he was going for the gun, I don't see evidence that he actually was going for a gun. Hopefully the security video will clear that up. I understand that what an officer truly thinks is enough to exonerate him.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:11 pm to LurkingTigers
he was probably trying to sit up to breathe. poor dude.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if the cops want to arrest you, they will. there is NOTHING gained by not accepting that fact and only bad things can happen if you get emotional and make irrational decisions
I think there many people are simply uninformed about their rights. You have to comply, even with an unlawful request, until it is proven in a court of law that the request is unlawful.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:12 pm to MightyYat
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Then why the frick are you arguing in this thread?
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LSUTANGERINE
Non-white suspect and white cop(s). This is literally his thread. He has to argue for the minority even if he knows that he is wrong.
There are anti-LSUTANGERINE who will argue for the white person every time, but most of the posters here are fairly level headed. However, LSUTANGERINE hates to have his bias called out and to be told that he is literally trying to argue against the facts even though he concedes the facts differ from his opinion.
There are injustices for all races. This situation is not one. Unless you are talking about the two families of the officers and the officers themselves. They will be threatened and have to look over their shoulders for years. Nights of no sleep, hours of crying and fear. Why? Because of the color of their skin.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:13 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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I think the police handled it less than adequate from the onset
By trying non-lethal tactics to subdue the suspect.
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Although I am convinced at least one officer thought he was going for the gun, I don't see evidence that he actually was going for a gun. Hopefully the security video will clear that up.
You are not going to find one better than the one just shown due to the location of the scuffle under the car.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:13 pm to slackster
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I think there many people are simply uninformed about their rights. You have to comply, even with an unlawful request, until it is proven in a court of law that the request is unlawful.
they have guns. you don't. even if they're 100% wrong, if they shoot you, i guess you sit there dying happy in the thought that your family will get a large settlement due to your death?
it's just ridiculous 
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if the cops want to arrest you, they will. there is NOTHING gained by not accepting that fact and only bad things can happen if you get emotional and make irrational decisions
fricked up but tru. If I was a black person, I'd be the most compliant person in the world with cops. It's wrong that they, specifically, have to handle officers with "kid gloves", but it's a game of survival at this point
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:13 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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think the police handled it less than adequate from the onset.
Of course you do. Even though we have no idea what happened from the point the cops rolled up, you will NEVER give the trained officers the benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:14 pm to RB10
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I'm sorry you got caught in an outright lie. Maybe next time you should be more careful when trolling the board.
I'm sorry you got caught putting words in people's mouths.
Maybe next time you should be more careful when trolling the board.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:14 pm to LSUTANGERINE
The video is pixelated most likely because it was sent via text message. A clear version of the video has to exist.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:14 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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What's upsetting to me is that I see two men who took on a pretty thankless job these days to protect a community
And they killed a man. And it doesn't look justified. I believe they have a hard job. They don't get to kill people as a result. Period.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:14 pm to SG_Geaux
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Should they have stood back and waited for him to pull his gun first? They were trying to take him down and arrest him.
Yeah, maybe they should have. I'm not being a smartass, that is my legitimate answer. A LEO was in the thread earlier discussing how difficult it is to subdue a subject of his size in those conditions. When you consider the fact that he was armed and had gone completely unfazed by two Tasers, perhaps they should have scratched the idea of taking him down physically.
I genuinely don't know what they should have done, but that seems logical to me. What is the protocol and what should be the protocol are two things to discuss in this incidence.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:14 pm to AwesomeSauce
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There are injustices for all races. This situation is not one. Unless you are talking about the two families of the officers and the officers themselves. They will be threatened and have to look over their shoulders for years. Nights of no sleep, hours of crying and fear. Why? Because of the color of their skin.
And it won't stop there. It just breeds further resentment among black communities towards police officers. That's what BLM really wants. It's pretty clear they want a race war, not "equality". They want their lives, criminal or not, to matter more than anyone else. That includes the people who have sworn an oath to serve and protect them despite the criminal behavior they enable in their own neighborhoods.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:16 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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I'm sorry you got caught putting words in people's mouths.
Maybe next time you should be more careful when trolling the board
You insinuate shite and then flat out deny it because you "didn't say X" specifically.
You're a joke.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:16 pm to slackster
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Should they have stood back and waited for him to pull his gun first? They were trying to take him down and arrest him.
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Yeah, maybe they should have.
So they should've waited for the situation to escalate to the point that it's very likely one of the officers would've been shot (and possibly killed)?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:17 pm to AwesomeSauce
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Non-white suspect and white cop(s). This is literally his thread. He has to argue for the minority even if he knows that he is wrong. There are anti-LSUTANGERINE who will argue for the white person every time, but most of the posters here are fairly level headed. However, LSUTANGERINE hates to have his bias called out and to be told that he is literally trying to argue against the facts even though he concedes the facts differ from his opinion. There are injustices for all races. This situation is not one. Unless you are talking about the two families of the officers and the officers themselves. They will be threatened and have to look over their shoulders for years. Nights of no sleep, hours of crying and fear. Why? Because of the color of their skin.
For the record, I have not mentioned or implied race as an issue in this incident.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:17 pm to Boagni Swamp
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And they killed a man
Justifiably so
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And it doesn't look justified
Does to me
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They don't get to kill people as a result.
Actually, they do when it escalates to that point
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:17 pm to weedGOKU666
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Wrestling him to the ground seems like a really poor choice.
Exactly.
If you and I had guns and were authorized to apprehend a man his size who was also armed, I'd like to think we'd avoid a physical altercation unless he attacked us. If the Tasers don't work and he's just standing there (as he was in the first video), tackling him seems unwise at best, and I say that regardless of the benefit of hindsight.
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