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Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:06 pm to shel311
quote:
e video we've seen didn't show it.
That's just not true. You can't clearly see either way if he was or wasn't reaching for a weapon in that video. If you think otherwise then you're not being objective.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:06 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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Id actually say it is very inconvenient. It will show what led up to going hands on. Even if they were still wearing them it wouldn't show much from being such close quarters imo
Depending on where they fell off I still think it's a key part of this. It's possibly the only footage besides that cell recording. Also very curious to see if the store had surveillance, most those places in that area certainly do. No matter how shitty they look.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:07 pm to Scoop
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How the hell would this guy pass the background check?
Not sure if trolling or not, but nobody mentioned he bought it legally
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:07 pm to TitleistProV1X
quote:You clearly saw his hand go for a weapon?
That's just not true. You can't clearly see either way if he was or wasn't reaching for a weapon in that video. If you think otherwise then you're not being objective.
You don't see a weapon or his hands, fwiw.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:08 pm to hg
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You've been hanging around shel too long with all this contrarian bullshite.
I don't really mean for this to be such a crazy approach. I'm in the camp that the officers were justified but nothing is conclusive at this point and there are a few questions that deserve an answer.
My biggest issue in the thread are the people that take an extreme view one way or the other and make up shite to spout off as facts to fit their narrative. A perfect example is someone saying he's obviously reaching for a gun in the video. That's utterly preposterous.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:08 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Because one day someone is going to falsely accuse you of a crime and you're going to resist the cops because you aren't doing anything wrong at all, and they're going to shoot you.
That is not a reason to resist a cop.
Especially if you've done nothing wrong.
It is a good way to look suspicious and threatening and jeopardize your well-being.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:08 pm to UNO
sure, but this cop has his partner with him. once two shots are fired, i'd like to believe two good police officers could do their job to restrain the guy.
there are a few things coming out about this event that is leading me to believe these two cops aren't very good at their job. of course, i appreciate what cops do and don't like to question the capability of those that protect us, but that's just my feeling here.
In other words, "I threw this last statement on at the end so it doesn't look like I'm the cop-bashing internet troll I really am. Because my previous statements, all misguided conjecture and emotional twaffle really reflect who I am."
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:08 pm to shel311
You seem illiterate.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:08 pm to shel311
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So doesn't the video show Alton going for his gun?
No.
Doesn't mean he didn't do it, but the video we've seen didn't show it.
Well then why on earth did the cops shoot him? I don't think cops want to be involved in a shooting. It's not like they were like, "well let's shoot someone today, Bob." Clearly, the cops saw something they didn't like and responded with force.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:09 pm to slackster
quote:You're not being objective!!!!
A perfect example is someone saying he's obviously reaching for a gun in the video. That's utterly preposterous.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:09 pm to slackster
quote:
I'm in the camp that the officers were justified but nothing is conclusive
IT DOESNT frickING MATTER.
the story is DONE, all facts are in (rioting begins) and no information will be heard until the verdict GUILTY/NOT GUILTY whereupon more rioting.
the end.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:09 pm to ell_13
quote:ok
You seem illiterate.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:09 pm to shel311
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They're being accused of coming in guns drawn??? That was what my quote was in reference to, I haven't seen them accused of that.
I thought you were questioning the racial aspect of what you quoted. I was saying they are already being accused of doing this because he was black.
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I don't know what that means, to be honest. Officer's safety first doesn't equate to coming in shooting, so I'm not sure what you're saying there.
I never said it had to come down to shooting, I said "if" it did there wouldn't be questions of the validity if they are told beforehand the suspect has a firearm. The fact they are expected to confirm that fact before fully protecting themselves proves their lives come second to the suspects in the eyes of the people.
We expect cops to assess situations in which their lives could be in very real danger without using excessive force, if possible.
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Oh, I don't care about the general public. I just have a hard time believing that, by policy, the officer should put a perp's safety ahead of his own.
The perception of the public is all we're I'm talking about and all that really matters right now.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:09 pm to SoFla Tideroller
no, but feel free to continue to puts words in people's mouth and make your own self look foolish.
people are having a discussion in this thread. no one is trolling.
people are having a discussion in this thread. no one is trolling.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:09 pm to TbirdSpur2010
yep, you don't win a fight in the streets with the cops. You let them take you in, you give them the silent treatment, lawyer up and then bend them over in court.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:10 pm to ell_13
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Pretty easy to see that those can come off during a fight.
Whoever the State rep was at the press conference this morning she talked about how important body cameras were etc. and then said BRPD should stop using them until they can be replaced with cameras that won't fall off a uniform.
This made no sense but she was outraged and got on national news so
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:10 pm to Jim Smith
quote:Most likely because he had a gun and went for it.
Well then why on earth did the cops shoot him?
The question was did the video show it. The answer is no, it did not.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:11 pm to shel311
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think it most definitely puts them more in harm's way.
Not what I'm asking. I'm asking whether he thinks it's a bad thing if cops believe they can resolve a situation without gunfire and try to do so.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:11 pm to RB10
quote:If a white cop shoots a black guy, the circumstances almost do not matter, it will be a thing.
I thought you were questioning the racial aspect of what you quoted. I was saying they are already being accused of doing this because he was black.
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