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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:50 pm to slackster
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:50 pm to slackster
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Mostly, but people love a video, especially an ambiguous one that can be spun to support either side. I think there are people who believe it was justified but can still concede that the video doesn't look great. It's sort of like seeing how the sausage is made.
While i agree with your point, if the races were reversed, the President wouldn't be calling Kip and Amy Schumer's disgusting self wouldn't be tweeting about it.
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:50 pm to RB10
quote:I don't see how this is so at all, considering the witness stated he was brandishing and waving a gun.
If he pulls his weapon he gets blasted for excessive force and profiling a black man without real cause
quote:Certainly a brave move by the officers, but shouldn't their own safety be a higher priority than the perp's safety?
Now he's got his gun out and is trying to tell a suspect who's already shown he won't comply, to comply. The most likely outcome of that scenario is the guy getting shot anyway.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:50 pm to SabiDojo
My wife can't even drink a whole beer. 2 shots would probably kill her
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:50 pm to Scoop
So doesn't the video show Alton going for his gun? If so, how did the officers respond inappropriately?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:51 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:51 pm to RB10
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What have I "made up"?
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If he pulls his weapon he gets blasted for excessive force and profiling a black man without real cause
By definition, literally, however you want to say it. That is, one of a couple, made up statements to support your argument.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:52 pm to Jim Smith
quote:No.
So doesn't the video show Alton going for his gun?
Doesn't mean he didn't do it, but the video we've seen didn't show it.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:52 pm to musick
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At that range he was definitely at the very least incapacitated at the first point blank shot (assuming he didn't miss)
why the other shots?
Not necessarily. Even being shot twice, the guy could still reach for or towards his weapon, assuming he had one.
I'm no expert, but I'd imagine cops are taught to shoot until the threat is gone.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:52 pm to shel311
why did he resist? Didn't tell cops he had a gun? That's how you get shot.
I know that. Why didn't he?
I know that. Why didn't he?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:52 pm to Scoop
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They think someone falls dead and motionless the second a bullet hits them.
I like to think everyone dies like in old westerns when shot. A gasp, 3 slow steps, then fall down but somehow lay seated upright.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:54 pm to SabiDojo
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Not at all, actually. If the guy was in fact reaching for the gun, he could still be reaching even after shot twice. Not everyone is immediately killed or completely incapacitated after two shots.
sure, but this cop has his partner with him. once two shots are fired, i'd like to believe two good police officers could do their job to restrain the guy.
there are a few things coming out about this event that is leading me to believe these two cops aren't very good at their job. of course, i appreciate what cops do and don't like to question the capability of those that protect us, but that's just my feeling here.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:54 pm to LakeViewLSU
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Unless he pulled the cops gun from its holster.
Or pulled a gun from his pocket that we cant see.
That right hand is definitely going to be what this is all about.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:54 pm to Jim Smith
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doesn't the video show Alton going for his gun? If so, how did the officers respond inappropriately?
Well, the video we have seen only doesn't seem to contradict the officer's statement. It doesn't really show the guy going for the gun (or at least it doesn't to me).
Unless there is evidence to the contrary, I think the evidence tends to support the officer's statements.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:54 pm to Jimmy2shoes
quote:We don't know. My guess is only he knew, so we'll never know.
why did he resist?
quote:I don't think so, not sure though.
Didn't tell cops he had a gun?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:55 pm to Jim Smith
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So doesn't the video show Alton going for his gun? If so, how did the officers respond inappropriately?
Because they are white...
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:55 pm to Puck82
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I would love to see where all this proof of him reaching or not reaching for a gun
We may just have the word of the officer that was on top of him trying to control his arm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:55 pm to slackster
You've been hanging around shel too long with all this contrarian bullshite.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:55 pm to Scoop
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Most people think things happen like on tv or in the movies.
They think someone falls dead and motionless the second a bullet hits them.
yeah, that's definitely it.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:55 pm to shel311
According to the actual police posted report some pages back, the cops were there because he was threatening someone with said gun. So they knew about it.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:56 pm to shel311
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I don't see how this is so at all, considering the witness stated he was brandishing and waving a gun.
They're being accused of it even though a gun was recovered....
quote:
Certainly a brave move by the officers, but shouldn't their own safety be a higher priority than the perp's safety?
If this were the case no cops would be questioned when they discharged their weapons in a situation where they were informed that the suspect had a gun.
The fact is, cops are expected to put their lives second unless they are clearly attacked first. At least by the general public.
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