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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:23 pm to Salmon
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:23 pm to Salmon
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I don't know how 2 cops couldn't have secured his hands away from the gun and disarmed him, but I wasn't there and I'm sure the cops were panicing a bit.
they were trying!!! ol boy was 310lbs* of angry wrestling.
*310lbs from earlier arrest. could have gained another 50 since.
you think those 2 skinny cops were a match that linebacker? they were trying to take him down but that's a damn tree and i think they realized he was gaining the upper hand.
my life or that POS i'm not taking a chance either.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 1:25 pm
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:24 pm to CAD703X
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they were trying!!!
I know they were, just seems like cops should be better at securing people, especially when there are 2 of them and they are on top of the guy
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:25 pm to Salmon
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just seems like cops should be better at securing people
will they weigh him at the morgue? i bet $100 old boy was more than 310lbs which was his last recorded weight.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:25 pm to Salmon
Suicide by cop. One less moron in the world.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:26 pm to llfshoals
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One less moron in the world.
and 2 million new #BLM rioters and looters.
not really a good trade-off.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:26 pm to RB10
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Trying to wrestle the gun away before any shots are fired is a bad thing, in your opinion?
I'm not necessarily saying that. My question is whether or not that is the BEST option at that point. Again, I commend the officers for doing everything they could to rectify the situation peacefully. They didn't come in guns drawn looking for a confrontation. They reportedly used a Taser twice. Bravo. However, that doesn't mean tackling him was the still a good decision. I don't know one way or the other if that is the best option, but I tend to believe that was a risky proposition if they believed he had a weapon. That guy was damn near bigger than both cops combined. He was unfazed by being tased twice. Does a physical altercation with an armed, large man seem like the best route? I think at that point they're more than justified to draw their weapons and go from there. Hell, at the very least that seems safer for them than tackling him, no?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:27 pm to Salmon
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I know they were, just seems like cops should be better at securing people, especially when there are 2 of them and they are on top of the guy
Respect their Authority!!!!
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:28 pm to Nado Jenkins83
why are you yelling at me?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:31 pm to Salmon
N4THESTICKY# 
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:31 pm to Salmon
If they got the respect they deserve we could employ midgets and girl scouts to be cops.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:31 pm to slackster
It was absolutely risky, but I'll never question a cop for doing that BEFORE pulling out their weapon as long as it was a viable option. Which is was considering they were able to get him down, just unable to fully subdue him.
I've personally seen a cop pull his weapon when it's completely unwarranted. These two did their best not to do so, and are still being condemned by people for doing what they felt was necessary, in the end. I just don't understand that at all.
I've personally seen a cop pull his weapon when it's completely unwarranted. These two did their best not to do so, and are still being condemned by people for doing what they felt was necessary, in the end. I just don't understand that at all.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:31 pm to UNO
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because white people don't stand up for white trash. that's never been a thing.
good point. i'm ALL for equality but if this was a white guy killed i wouldn't blink an eye and would think well don't be a dumbass.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:32 pm to Salmon
Haven't kept up -- They're saying he had shots to the back? 
Maybe he rolled over after the chest shots?
Maybe he rolled over after the chest shots?Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:32 pm to RB10
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I'm asking whether he thinks it's a bad thing if cops believe they can resolve a situation without gunfire and try to do so.
Well it isn't an either/or scenario. The route they took led to deadly force, so arguing that drawing their guns while he is standing there could lead to deadly force isn't really a counterpoint. Drawing their guns to force compliance doesn't mean they had to be used, just as tackling him doesn't mean deadly force had to be used.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:33 pm to crkelly91
So my post asking how likely it was that both body cams fell of is, was deleted.
Anyone? The cover up of evidence is a bigger deal to me. If they destroyed evidence then that should be your #1 complaint.
The execution itself was in enough gray area for them to get off. It was admittedly a dangerous situation. Focus on the go pros, SJW's.
Anyone? The cover up of evidence is a bigger deal to me. If they destroyed evidence then that should be your #1 complaint.
The execution itself was in enough gray area for them to get off. It was admittedly a dangerous situation. Focus on the go pros, SJW's.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:35 pm to Asgard Device
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This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:35 pm to JuiceTerry
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Haven't kept up -- They're saying he had shots to the back? Maybe he rolled over after the chest shots?
at the end of the video before the camera pans away you can see the perp has managed to roll to his side with the cop on top, possibly freeing his arm to reach for a weapon and the cop is on top/facing his back. if he drew back to take aim, i'd expect the shots to go through his back.
*all speculation of course
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:35 pm to Asgard Device
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So my post asking how likely it was that both body cams fell of is, was deleted.
Because there's a whole thread about it, like I told you. you bleeding vagina.
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Anyone? The cover up of evidence is a bigger deal to me. If they destroyed evidence then that should be your #1 complaint.
This didn't happen. God damn you're stupid.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:36 pm to Asgard Device
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So my post asking how likely it was that both body cams fell of is, was deleted.
Anyone? The cover up of evidence is a bigger deal to me. If they destroyed evidence then that should be your #1 complaint.
oh for fricks sake your thread was deleted because it was STUPID.
the 'cam' is a little plastic box the size of a cigar box attached to the front of their shirt. i'm not remotely surprised that came off in the ensuing fight.
you act like they are wearing go-pros mounting to helmets or something
Posted on 7/6/16 at 1:36 pm to Asgard Device
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So my post asking how likely it was that both body cams fell of is, was deleted.
they were wrestling a pretty big guy to the ground
I think they should release the videos so we can see exactly when they "fell" off if they don't have anything to hide
if the cop in the back had his camera on we would probably be able to see the guys hands
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