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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:13 am to tylercsbn9
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:13 am to tylercsbn9
The black community chooses the wrong things to riot over. I'll never understand why there isn't any rioting over gang violence or when a child is killed by a stray bullet. It's hard for a lot of folks to take it seriously when it seems so hypocritical. There is a problem with police and black community that needs to be addressed from both sides. But the fact that the black community focuses on this more so than other issues just comes across disengenuous.
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:14 am to birdieman
What I learned today...
Don't wrestle with cops if I have a gun and want to live.
Don't wrestle with cops if I have a gun and want to live.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:16 am to LNCHBOX
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I've already said he deserved it based on his decisions FWIW
so...again
based off the actions that we 100% know, which is he resisted arrest while in possession of a firearm, you believe that is punishable by death?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:16 am to slackster
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Sure, as long as we don't take it to the "comply or die" levels.
I know people think you should simply comply and fight it in court, but the system doesn't work that way for everyone. Surely we can agree the systems is fully capable and often does railroad people who cannot afford to fight it otherwise. We also know there are crooked arse police across this country.
Those two things can and do breed contempt for officers and I'm not ready to simply ignore those concerns.
Are you saying that Sterling's arrest for being a pedophile, for selling drugs, and for illegally possessing a gun as a felon were not justified? I know plenty of black guys that obey the law because they are law abiding citizens.
What the black community really needs is black people standing up and saying he should have obeyed law enforcement. When you have the majority of the black community publicly dissing the cops instead of the felon for not obeying perfectly legal orders by the police than you are never going to improve the situation.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:16 am to Supermoto Tiger
The mental gymnastics you cocksuckers have to go through. Jesus Christ.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:18 am to Salmon
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so...again
based off the actions that we 100% know, which is he resisted arrest while in possession of a firearm, you believe that is punishable by death?
LOL, dumb post of the day. You clearly have never been around someone acting a fool with a firearm. Its a deadly situation, Sterling escalated it on his own accord. You play stupid games with a firearm and you get hurt or die. That is life.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:18 am to Salmon
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based off the actions that we 100% know, which is he resisted arrest while in possession of a firearm, you believe that is punishable by death?
It can be, something else I've said in this thread already. Stop trying to point me in a corner with absolutes, you're not going to.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:19 am to baldona
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How many steps should the cops HAVE to go through in order to restrain a convicted felon who is illegally in possession of a gun?
First of all it is unlikely they knew he was a convicted felon during the situation. Secondly, if they KNEW he had a gun, tackling him to the ground while he is standing there takes the situation to an entirely different level. That doesn't seem ideal, does it?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:19 am to LNCHBOX
Did he actually have a gun?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:19 am to Boagni Swamp
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Did he actually have a gun?
Nah, it was all made up. He also had no priors and was out with his church group when this happened.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:20 am to LNCHBOX
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It can be,
well you accused me of "adding more" to the situation when I tried to get you to expound on when it could be
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Stop trying to point me in a corner with absolutes, you're not going to.
You seem to have already answered in an absolute considering you have said that he deserved to die based off his known actions
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:21 am to baldona
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Are you saying that Sterling's arrest for being a pedophile,
How do you know this? I was not aware that the age of his victim had been released. She may have been 15-17.
Link?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:22 am to slackster
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I know people think you should simply comply and fight it in court, but the system doesn't work that way for everyone. Surely we can agree the systems is fully capable and often does railroad people who cannot afford to fight it otherwise. We also know there are crooked arse police across this country.
I agree that the system has a disparaging effect on those without the means for quality legal representation, but even if you're going to get railroaded in court, when has not complying or resisting arrest EVER worked out? There's 1 of 2 possible outcomes here: 1. You die, 2. You catch more charges.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:22 am to Salmon
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well you accused me of "adding more" to the situation when I tried to get you to expound on when it could be
You did add more to it.
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You seem to have already answered in an absolute considering you have said that he deserved to die based off his known actions
In this particular instance, sure. His decisions directly led to his death. That's on him, and no one else. I will never fault cops for protecting themselves in situations like these.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:24 am to LNCHBOX
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You did add more to it.
right...because you said "it can be" which implies in certain situations and I was trying to see in what situations....
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I will never fault cops for protecting themselves in situations like these.
Faulting a cop and questioning how things were handling are different, which for some reason some of y'all have a hard time understanding
*not necessarily you before you ask me for a link
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:25 am to LNCHBOX
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I will never fault cops for protecting themselves in situations like these.
Agreed, but unfortunately you and I arent the ones who drive mainstream media and therefore our opinions don't matter.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 9:26 am
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:25 am to LNCHBOX
Thanks, arsehole, but it was a serious question.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:26 am to slackster
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Secondly, if they KNEW he had a gun, tackling him to the ground while he is standing there takes the situation to an entirely different level
If you were a cop facing someone who had a gun and was refusing to comply, what would you do? Tackling them seems like a clear attempt to prevent the situation from becoming fatal.
They didn't know he had a gun before the struggle on the ground, though.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:26 am to Boagni Swamp
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Thanks, arsehole, but it was a serious question.
What do you think the answer is?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:27 am to uway
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They didn't know he had a gun before the struggle on the ground, though.
the original 911 call was about a guy threatening someone with a gun
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