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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:00 am to Salmon
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:00 am to Salmon
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what is up with these questions?
Just want you to stop and process the actions these cops took, I'm sure the last thing they want is to shoot a black...in fact I'm willing to bet they go to work praying to not be put in this scenario every damn time they strap on that badge.
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:00 am to LNCHBOX
You're welcome Trumpkin
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:01 am to slackster
Are we just going to continue to pay police officers nothing and expect them to be good? The smart people that would consider being a cop don't want to get paid 30k a year.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:01 am to LSUsmartass
I agree with that. Honestly being a cop in BR sounds miserable and every day you have to think you could be the next CNN story.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:02 am to cas4t
it's so sad watching these "community activists" get their publicity by sucking off the emotional response of the family
like either telling that son to cry or getting him so riled up that he cried
it's just disgusting to watch the leeches descend to maximize their impact and profile
like either telling that son to cry or getting him so riled up that he cried
it's just disgusting to watch the leeches descend to maximize their impact and profile
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:02 am to Boagni Swamp
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Be honest. If you had a black son, what would you tell him about dealing with the police? Would you let him play in the yard with a toy gun?
Same thing I'd tell my white son. They aren't friends and the only word you need to say is LAWYER
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:02 am to cas4t
Cam Sterling needs a room.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:02 am to LSUsmartass
Yeah I would think any altercations with black males is something they really don't want because it's tough to classify wrong and right even if they're following procedure and doing what they've been taught. Unfortunately it will always be a lose/lose situation for white officers.
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:02 am to slackster
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That sucks and makes me question what, if anything, can be done to avoid situations like that.
Compliance would be a good start.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:02 am to CAD703X
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editing has nothing to do with seeing what happened before the take down. Officers didn't magically teleport to the scene
Sure, but we've got no verifiable information as to what happened before the video. It is plausible it doesn't look good for Sterling, but we don't know one way or the other.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
I had to cut it off. It's pretty sickening
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:03 am to LSUsmartass
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Just want you to stop and process the actions these cops took, I'm sure the last thing they want is to shoot a black...in fact I'm willing to bet they go to work preying to not be put in this scenario every damn time they strap on that badge.
I pretty much said this in this thread FWIW
I never once claimed the cops did anything on purpose or willingly went out to kill the guy
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:03 am to Dire Wolf
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Be honest. If you had a black son, what would you tell him about dealing with the police? Would you let him play in the yard with a toy gun?
I would tell my son regardless of his color that when an officer tells you to do something, even though you disagree, obey his directives and we will settle everything in court later.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:04 am to cas4t
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Cops are gonna get off here and they probably should. Even if he didn't go for the gun, all they need is to think that he was reaching for it. Considering all the other factors with tazing him, and him threatening others, etc, there's no way this will be viewed as murder. BR about to be OOC.
Yep. The video was crap. The facts seem to be:
Guy had a gun and cops knew it because that is why they were there. He was threatening.
Guy resisted police.
Guy was tasered and not really phased.
Guy was told not to reach for gun.
Guy continued to resist.
Guy was shot.
Guy indeed had gun.
With that fact pattern I do not see how the cops are guilty of anything. The shot at close range looks bad but was they supposed to back up and give the guy a chance to get to gun?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:04 am to cas4t
After searching "Alton Sterling" on Twitter, most people seem to believe he was "murdered for selling CDs"
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:05 am to LNCHBOX
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The guy deserved to die for his actions. You resist with a weapon on you after already being tased, and that's just the way it is. Doesn't make it the best possible outcome.
No, no he didn't deserve to die. The cops were likely justified in shooting him because they don't know his intentions, but we don't know his intentions either, and if they weren't deadly, then death isn't a consequence he deserved.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:05 am to LSUsmartass
Everyone keeps saying the situation was not ideal, but I'd like someone to explain what else the cops should have done here?
1.) Verbal orders didn't work
2.) taser didn't work
3.) physical restraint didn't work
How many steps should the cops HAVE to go through in order to restrain a convicted felon who is illegally in possession of a gun?
1.) Verbal orders didn't work
2.) taser didn't work
3.) physical restraint didn't work
How many steps should the cops HAVE to go through in order to restrain a convicted felon who is illegally in possession of a gun?
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:07 am to slackster
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No, no he didn't deserve to die.
Yes he did. He made stupid choices could have endangered other people. Given the choice between his death and anyone else being injured, his death is fine by me.
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The cops were likely justified in shooting him because they don't know his intentions, but we don't know his intentions either, and if they weren't deadly, then death isn't a consequence he deserved.
Then he shouldn't resist after being tased and while illegally carrying. Tough shite for him.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:07 am to baldona
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3.) physical restraint didn't work
They did have him on the ground
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How many steps should the cops HAVE to go through in order to restrain a convicted felon who is illegally in possession of a gun?
did the cops know that he was a convicted felon with an illegal gun?
if not, that is irrelevant
Posted on 7/6/16 at 9:07 am to LNCHBOX
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Still doesn't mean it was optimal.
Giving the officers a promotion for their actions 100% implies it was the optimal behavior and outcome.
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