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re: All time debate: Tundra vs. F150 vs. Silverado/Sierra
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:47 am to terriblegreen
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:47 am to terriblegreen
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I will never drive anything but a Tundra again.
That's right, Baw. Buy American. Ford moves more of their manufacturing to Mehico every year.
Tundra's are designed in CA, parts built in NC, and all built in San Antonio.
ETA: Why do downvote queers hate American made?
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 7:48 am
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:51 am to Beardlington
Interesting that this thread came up. I've got a 2012 Tacoma 4x4 with 218K on it and just yesterday I started considering trading it in on a newer Tundra.
I want a V8 4x4 with more room and a little better ride. I know the Tundra isn't a cadillac for ride quality but they are better than the Tacoma, which rides like an ice wagon.
Used truck prices are fricking insane. 39K for a 2019 Tundra with 40K miles.
My Tacoma is paid off, I might just hang on to her. ..
I want a V8 4x4 with more room and a little better ride. I know the Tundra isn't a cadillac for ride quality but they are better than the Tacoma, which rides like an ice wagon.
Used truck prices are fricking insane. 39K for a 2019 Tundra with 40K miles.
My Tacoma is paid off, I might just hang on to her. ..
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:51 am to Dandaman
I just traded my 10 year old Tundra for a Sierra 3500. The Sierra is nicer inside but it doesn't seem as well built as the Tundra. The Sierra already has some rust (its a 2019) and the Tundra didn't have a speck after 150k miles.
I also never worried about the Tundra, I knew it would work everyday. Not sure I'm that confident about the GMC.
I also never worried about the Tundra, I knew it would work everyday. Not sure I'm that confident about the GMC.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:54 am to Dandaman
GM from 2013 to now are horrible built with two known guaranteed major failure modes. Lifters and transmissions.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:55 am to Dandaman
I’ve had the Ford and currently own the Chevy. Both great. 120k on the Chevy with no issues. Either one is an overall better product than the Tundra.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:56 am to Dandaman
I have an F-150. Get the Ram. Stellantis has done a great job with improvements to reliability.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:19 am to Dandaman
Lot's of old school thoughts and opinions on here. This isn't your daddy's Chevrolet's anymore, the Tundra's and their bulletproof V8's are gone. Basically just buy what you like and take your chances.
I personally love Ram's and they have been trouble free for me. I had a 21 Trail Boss and after 7 months the interior looked like it had 5 years of wear. Scuff's and scratches galore. And yes, the new Silverado's/Sierra's are updated, but the materials are still the same, I'LL PASS! My Ram interior is pretty flawless.
I personally love Ram's and they have been trouble free for me. I had a 21 Trail Boss and after 7 months the interior looked like it had 5 years of wear. Scuff's and scratches galore. And yes, the new Silverado's/Sierra's are updated, but the materials are still the same, I'LL PASS! My Ram interior is pretty flawless.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:20 am to Dandaman
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Car reviews rank the Ram high, but we all know that it has dependability issues,
We do know that?
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:21 am to Big Gorilla
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gas mileage and really, that's not enough of a difference to matter.
Last time I bought a truck it was something around 7-8mpg difference. Has that changed?
I get 14.8 mpg in my 2016 Tundra with the 5.7. Not sure about the new Tundras.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:22 am to Dandaman
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All time debate: Tundra vs. F150 vs. Silverado/Sierra
What year? It matters.
I like the first and second gen Tundras with the V8. Hate the new ones with the turbo V6.
I like the 2019 F-150, but hate the 2020-current models.
I like the current gen Sierra a lot...it's my current favorite.
I like the 2015-2016 Silverado, but don't love the ones since then.
I also like the latest Ram.
I pretty much liked all the mid 1990s trucks from Ford, Toyota, Dodge, Chevy and GMC.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:23 am to Dandaman
Have a 2022 F150 with the 5.0L. So far so good, and it is an extremely comfortable truck. Gotta get the 18" wheels though. I'll never own a truck again with 20's or especially 22's. Ruins the ride, and worthless offroad.
One complaint: the turning radius of an F150 is pretty terrible.
One complaint: the turning radius of an F150 is pretty terrible.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:23 am to TygerTyger
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Interesting that this thread came up. I've got a 2012 Tacoma 4x4 with 218K on it and just yesterday I started considering trading it in on a newer Tundra.
I want a V8 4x4 with more room and a little better ride. I know the Tundra isn't a cadillac for ride quality but they are better than the Tacoma, which rides like an ice wagon.
Used truck prices are fricking insane. 39K for a 2019 Tundra with 40K miles.
My Tacoma is paid off, I might just hang on to her. ..
Try to find a 2021 model eventually.
A lot of people don't like the latest Tundra. I'm very disappointed in it and I'm worried they'll ruin the next Tacoma too.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:24 am to TSmith
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Have a 2022 F150 with the 5.0L. So far so good, and it is an extremely comfortable truck. Gotta get the 18" wheels though. I'll never own a truck again with 20's or especially 22's. Ruins the ride, and worthless offroad.
One complaint: the turning radius of an F150 is pretty terrible.
The F-150s, Silverados, Sierras, and Rams have gotten massive over the years. For most people, I think the mid sized truck is the way to go. Some can tow almost 7,000 lbs now, and are close to the size of the 1990s full sized trucks were.
Easier to park, easier to take off road, and much tighter turning circle. Not to mention it's usually a little better on gas.
You can essentially tow a compact tractor with a box blade and front loader on a tandem axle trailer with a a Chevy Colorado now. It's close, but it's within the limits of the truck. I wouldn't make a habit out of it, but it can do it occasionally without an issue. The Ranger and Frontier are both pretty close to that capability too. It's a 7/10ths Silverado/F-150 in size...but seems to have 4/5ths the capability.
They are so much easier to park and garage too.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 10:29 am
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:28 am to goofball
I would agree with this if…
1. Midsized trucks were considerably less expensive than full sized
2. Midsized trucks got 25+ mpg (they don’t)
3. Midsized trucks had better ride quality
1. Midsized trucks were considerably less expensive than full sized
2. Midsized trucks got 25+ mpg (they don’t)
3. Midsized trucks had better ride quality
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:32 am to Eli Goldfinger
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1. Midsized trucks were considerably less expensive than full sized
They kind of are now that incentives for full sized trucks aren't really happening.....apples to apples.
The average transaction price for a Sierra is over $60,000 now. The Canyon is closer to $40,000.
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2. Midsized trucks got 25+ mpg (they don’t)
That's fair. They get better mileage, but they don't get THAT much better mileage. Maybe 2-3 mpg on average better than a similarly equipped full sized truck.
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3. Midsized trucks had better ride quality
Also fair criticism. Generally full sized trucks ride better. The Ranger, Ridgeline, and Colorado ride pretty well. The Tacoma is pretty rough. All of them are less smooth than their full sized counterparts.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 10:33 am
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:34 am to terriblegreen
Check my math...
Say you drive 15,000 miles a year.
15,000 / 16mpg = 937 gallons of gas
15,000 / 19mpg = 789 gallons of gas
937 - 789 = 148 gallons of gas more per year
148 x $3.50 per gallon = $518 dollars more a year to drive Tundra, so let's say $50 a month more.
Say you drive 15,000 miles a year.
15,000 / 16mpg = 937 gallons of gas
15,000 / 19mpg = 789 gallons of gas
937 - 789 = 148 gallons of gas more per year
148 x $3.50 per gallon = $518 dollars more a year to drive Tundra, so let's say $50 a month more.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:34 am to Dandaman
I'm partial to the current GMC Sierra.
But until the latest redesign, I really liked the Tundra.
But until the latest redesign, I really liked the Tundra.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:36 am to madamsquirrel
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Same. Tundra and Silverado will both go high miles but Silverado will start having small issues that you have to deal with constantly. The issues will gradually get bigger as you put more miles on the Silverado.
A GM truck will run badly longer than most cars run at all.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:41 am to XenScott
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I have an F-150. Get the Ram. Stellantis has done a great job with improvements to reliability.
I'm VERY impressed with the latest Ram.
I recognize that it might take a little more maintenance than the competitors as the miles pile on. Like everything else, if you stay on top of it, it will do very well.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:43 am to Dandaman
Depends on what you want.
Dependability and reliability - Tundra
Bells and whistles that aren't fully tested - the domestics
Dependability and reliability - Tundra
Bells and whistles that aren't fully tested - the domestics
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