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re: "All Glaciers Will Be Gone By 2020" -- Signs being removed at Glacier NP
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:09 am to ItNeverRains
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:09 am to ItNeverRains
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But I will wait for the data to show what that affect is. If it’s .00001%, it’s nonsense.
You may never get that exact answer.
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What I’m against is the measures desired by leftist who assume humans are an overwhelming detriment to a naturally occurring phenomenon with no scientific data to support it.
You say you are open to it, yet you continually claim that it is a naturally occurring phenomenon.
You don't seem too open to it IMO. Your mind seems pretty made up.
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:17 am to Salmon
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It is extremely sad that it took 3 years for a National Park to get the budget to change 3 signs.
Why? They are the ones who put them in there and it’s my dime.
I think shaming them for trying to fear monger is pretty appropriate.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:26 am to Adam Banks
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Why? They are the ones who put them in there and it’s my dime.
because it illustrates how underfunded our National Parks are and I believe the National Parks are one of the few things our Federal gov't got right
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:27 am to Korkstand
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There's still some ice left! Republicans win!
You missed the point
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:53 am to TigerSaintInDallas
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Scroll down a bit on this page, it has a comparison of a glacier in 1910 to 2005. A few signs in Glacier have pictures of what what the glaciers used to look like and what they look like now
The pictures look like different peaks to me. Also, one could easily be taken in spring or summer. Not saying they may not be shrinking, but that is by no means evidence lol
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:59 am to Privateer 2007
ADAPT
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:18 am to Salmon
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because it illustrates how underfunded our National Parks are and I believe the National Parks are one of the few things our Federal gov't got right
Most Republicans have a healthy love and or understanding of the outdoors. Republicans are much more likely to be hunters or fishermen than Democrats. And still this Republican administration cuts funding to National Parks. It's bewildering to me. I could see selling of surplus national forest land. Or closing some parks altogether. Or partnering with conservation groups to handle some of the burden. But just reducing their funding year after year makes little sense to me.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:23 am to GEAUXT
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Not saying they may not be shrinking, but that is by no means evidence lol
They are.
Most of the glaciers in Oregon and Washington are next to nothing anymore.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:39 am to No Colors
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Now they are certain the glaciers will disappear. Except by 2100 instead of 2020.
I'm gonna bookmark this thread so my great-grandson can bump it in 2100.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:38 pm to LSUintheNW
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Most of the glaciers in Oregon and Washington are next to nothing anymore.
Ours aren’t too far behind.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:51 pm to Salmon
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You say you are open to it, yet you continually claim that it is a naturally occurring phenomenon.
You don't seem too open to it IMO. Your mind seems pretty made up.
Scientifically it can be proven that based on our distance from the sun when a cataclysmic event causes an ice age over time our planet will gradually become warmer as long as that yellow dwarf 90 million miles away keeps on keeping on and there are no future catastrophic events. Anyone who disputes that denies science.
There has been and will always be future catastrophic events, so yes, this is a naturally occurring phenomenon.
What I argue is what role humans play in climate change. I'm open to any data that can be supported with concrete evidence. I just haven't seen any.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:53 pm to ItNeverRains
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What I argue is what role humans play in climate change. I'm open to any data that can be supported with concrete evidence. I just haven't seen any.
Sorry but you're wrong.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 3:17 pm to canyon critter
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Aren’t you an auburn fan?
Yep, 13-0.
Thanks for playing.
edit: 14-0
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 11:41 am
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:05 pm to jbgleason
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We will run out of oil! Hoax of the ‘70’s.
The Russians are coming! Hoax of the 80’s.
Global Warming!! Hoax of the 90’’s.
Ummm. We meant Climate Change! Hoax of the day.
Terrorists are gonna get us!! Hoax of the day
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:21 pm to No Colors
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Glacier national park
Will be there in July and will pee on as many glaciers as possible to help their stance
Posted on 1/8/20 at 5:16 pm to Centinel
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Sorry but you're wrong
Then kindly provide data to show exactly how much of a detriment I am vs how much temperatures would be should I not exist.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 6:54 pm to Kvothe
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Will be there in July and will pee on as many glaciers as possible to help their stance
No you won’t, because you’re probably incapable of physically hiking to them. The only ones you can hike on trail to is Grinnell glacier And Sperry glacier, and unless you are in good shape you won’t be seeing them. Otherwise they’re up on high slopes among the peaks.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 1/8/20 at 6:58 pm to No Colors
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Most Republicans have a healthy love and or understanding of the outdoors. Republicans are much more likely to be hunters or fishermen than Democrats. And still this Republican administration cuts funding to National Parks. It's bewildering to me. I could see selling of surplus national forest land. Or closing some parks altogether. Or partnering with conservation groups to handle some of the burden. But just reducing their funding year after year makes little sense to me.
Do you know how the allocated funds are currently being spent, and what's the right amount?
Cuts can be made to a $1 million budget and as well as a $100 billion budget. How much should National Parks get?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:00 pm to BurningHeart
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Cuts can be made to a $1 million budget and as well as a $100 billion budget. How much should National Parks get?
Let’s determine that number based on visitation, which has SKYROCKETED in the last 10 years.
If they’re underfunded, they shouldn’t be accessible to the millions of tourists that destroy their integrity.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:11 pm to jbgleason
In the 70s we were expecting a new ice age.
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