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re: "All Glaciers Will Be Gone By 2020" -- Signs being removed at Glacier NP

Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:27 am to
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:27 am to
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Government creates fake scary problems that are meant to frighten people into accepting fake scary solutions, which are offered by --- wait for it --- the same government that created the fake scary problem to begin with.

The reason the government thinks we're stupid, is because the majority of us are.



You gonna get droned bro......
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:32 am to
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such passive aggressiveness


And the retort bears no hypocrisy. Or data. But with good reason on the latter.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 9:34 am
Posted by Pelican fan99
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:35 am to
Global warming is the biggest scam of al time
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:36 am to
data for what, exactly?

you want specific data for models demonstrating what the size of the glaciers in Glacier would be if we removed all human element?

I have no idea if that data exists and I'm certainly not spending time looking for it

Even if I found it, you wouldn't believe it, so why bother?
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:39 am to
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you want specific data for models demonstrating what the size of the glaciers in Glacier would be if we removed all human element?


Yes. How else will I know exactly how awful I am and how I need to be micromanaged by globalist if I don’t know my increased impact to a naturally occurring phenomenon?

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Even if I found it, you wouldn't believe it, so why bother?


Physics is my jam. I’m a big fan of the sciences. Throw some stats at me.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 9:41 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:39 am to
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How else will I know exactly how awful I am and how I need to be micromanaged by globalist if I don’t know my increased impact to a naturally occurring phenomenon?



and this is why its pointless to even discuss this topic
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:42 am to
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and this is why its pointless to even discuss this topic


If I reword it in PC format will you reconsider?
Posted by TigerChief10
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:42 am to
Its pointless to talk about it because people like you throw out wildly ridiculous "predictions" used as scare tactics then completely ignore it when those "predictions" are laughably inaccurate.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:44 am to
I don't know what that even means
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:44 am to
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Its pointless to talk about it because people like you throw out wildly ridiculous "predictions" used as scare tactics then completely ignore it when those "predictions" are laughably inaccurate.


link?
Posted by 91TIGER
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:45 am to
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Don't forget the Red Communist Scare of the 50s


This one was correct, just see your MSM / Democrat Party.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:50 am to
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I don't know what that even means


The naive know it all defense. A trademark for liberals.
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:53 am to
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Don’t forget the Acid Rain hoax of the 80’s.




well, this is partly true. the pH of rain has dropped, esp in the NE. it erodes stone and makes water habitats less than ideal for marine life
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:53 am to
what?

do you think your comment was "anti-PC" or something? and I took offense to that?

You are all over the place.

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A trademark for liberals.


Right. Because if one believes that humans are capable of affecting the climate then they must be liberal.

Amazing stuff as always.
Posted by jnethe1
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:54 am to
We’re going to look back on this and be so disappointed that so many of our generation fell for this bs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:57 am to
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have no idea if that data exists and I'm certainly not spending time looking for it 


My biggest pet peave. I live in a very heavily glaciated area where glaciers have been retreating for thousands of years, with some oscillations in between. Yet we are constantly reminded by government "experts" of all people that CC is melting off the glaciers.

It's far more complicated than that.
As with any myth there is some truth, it just gets bastardized by ideology.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 10:12 am
Posted by rattlebucket
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:01 am to
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and I believe we will be able to control the climate in the next 100-150 years


Outstanding. Just amazing

Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:02 am to
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Right. Because if one believes that humans are capable of affecting the climate then they must be liberal. Amazing stuff as always.


Wrong. I’m open to the fact as well. But I will wait for the data to show what that affect is. If it’s .00001%, it’s nonsense.

What I’m against is the measures desired by leftist who assume humans are an overwhelming detriment to a naturally occurring phenomenon with no scientific data to support it.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:03 am to
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Outstanding. Just amazing


Do you even Space Force bro?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:07 am to
Right. Which is why it was exceptionally dumb to put the "2020" date on the signs. Just complete lack of awareness. It is pure fear mongering and it just further drive the politicization of the topic. It's frustrating to no end.

It is why I despise the whole "settled science" nonsense, especially with something as complex as the Earth's mechanics.

It is a pretty safe assumption that humans are affecting the Earth's climate. But why what percentage and exactly how is still being determined.

It is just how science works. Today's studies will almost assuredly either be proven wrong or their conclusion will be improved upon in the near future. But coming to the wrong conclusions is still learning.

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