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re: Alexander the Great or ghengis khan

Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:19 pm to
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Or take away the stirrup, and Alexander wins.


Then I will take away the spear from Alexander. See how that works out?
Posted by kfont28
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:20 pm to
Ghengis khan all day and not because of his leadership but because the Mongols were bad arse. If you want to know why listen to hardcore history - wrath of the khans.
Posted by X82ndTiger
USA
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:21 pm to
Ghengis Khan, he slayed. Or something else.
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:22 pm to
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ghengis khan

Those boi's were terrible, in a good slaughter everyone way.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108356 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:24 pm to
Also Alexander was a severe drunk. There are parts of his campaign that were overwhelmed by stupidity that can only be explained by booze given his otherwise competence. It’s also what likely led to his death. He had to have been poisoned in his cup, because his death makes little sense otherwise.

Genghis died in his 60s if not 70s while conquering the world. He had less personal flaws than Alexander.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17703 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:27 pm to
GK
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:32 pm to
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He had to have been poisoned in his cup, because his death makes little sense otherwise.


For nearly all of human history disease has been the primary cause of death, how does that not make sense.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76305 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:48 pm to
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Genghis. It’s simple: Alexander inherited his army. Genghis rose from nothing to gain his. This is a no-brainer.


This is a strong point
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:15 pm to
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Doesn’t something like one of every 200 people in the world carry Genghis Khan DNA? You tell me who’s still around


Thats why I’d go Genghis, he was down with the bitches and the hoes
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36621 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:17 pm to
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People from the Asian steppes tore up Romans when they met. Pretty sure they’d do the same to Macedonians.




These people even hun bruh

This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 9:21 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:20 pm to
Patton.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56339 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:22 pm to
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if you give Alexander a time machine to the time of ghengis and allow him a year to get caught up on ghengis’s style and tactics he beats him 9X out of 10


Nope.
Yep. Khan won because of horses. Give Alexander access to the same military tech and he's a far more creative problem solver. They still teach his tactics at West Point. Khan didn't really have tactics. He had a systemic advantage.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17001 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:33 pm to
Gotta go with ghengis.

Alexander banged boys on the regular and I’m just not quite into that.

Plus like 3% of the world can be traced to ghengis. He spread his seed like crazy
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35028 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:35 pm to
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Give Alexander access to the same military tech and he's a far more creative problem solver


I’m sorry friend, but you’re just flat out wrong. The only way to fight against the mongols, is to use other mongols.

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They still teach his tactics at West Point. Khan didn't really have tactics. He had a systemic advantage.


What?! You have to be fricking with me. The khan didn’t have tactics

Ever heard of the feigned retreat? Yeah, the mongols perfected it. Parthian shot? Again, with stirrups was beyond devastating.

Then you have the whole, mobility thing. Get tired, pull back. Get new horse. Ride back in.

Alexander wouldn’t have a chance. Oh, and even if you have Alexander’s army the exact same equipment and a couple of years to prepare, they STILL would get their shite pushed in. The mongols were born in the saddle, and died in the saddle. You can’t replicate that in a few years.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15759 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:38 pm to
It depends on who has the bigger army and who they invading. Kahn invades tribes. Alex invades fortified positions.

Give me Caesar and his ability to destroy both...and also his army.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35028 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:39 pm to
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Kahn invades tribes


China is one big fricking tribe.

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Alex invades fortified positions.


Something something Great Wall.....
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51399 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:49 pm to
Wasn't the same Roman army as in centuries past. Less disciplined, not as well trained.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16047 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:57 pm to
Caesar had zero chance against Alexander. Alexander conquered more than the entire Roman Empire In 8 years. Dan Carlin who I’m sure most on this board would respect believes you could take Alexander and his army and literally just pick them up and drop them off on the battlefield with any army up up until the Middle Ages and have about a 25% chance of victory. That is insane. Also Alexander and the macedons were also horse people. The difference is Alexander was also a genius who was taught by either Plato or Socrates (can’t remember which). Also the Mongolian empire was built after ghengis as well. And as others have said Alexander destroyed his predecessors on the Asian steppes.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
6996 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:59 pm to
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Patton.


Manstein
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36621 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:00 pm to
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depends on who has the bigger army and who they invading. Kahn invades tribes. Alex invades fortified positions.


Bruh the mongols invaded Eastern Europe and the Middle East.

Genghis’ siege warfare is what separates him from the rest of the steppe greats
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 10:02 pm
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