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re: Alaskan Airlines plane had an issue tonight as part of the plane fell apart in the air
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:34 am to Macfly
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:34 am to Macfly
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Ever since American Airlines bought Alaskan back in the '80's, it's been a mess. I remember them having a disaster because of poor maintenance, just to keep the crews and planes in the air per American's directives.
Wow.
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Macfly
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 11:55 am
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:40 am to TheHarahanian
Add this to the list of problems with the Max. These planes have been a mess.
Boeing wants FAA to exempt MAX 7 from safety rules to get it in the air
Boeing wants FAA to exempt MAX 7 from safety rules to get it in the air
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:46 am to usc6158
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Alaska is one of the best airlines in the country, if not the best.
I flew Alaska last night (not this plane) and they are the best experience out of the domestic carriers hands down. If they go where I’m going, I fly them.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:48 am to Macfly
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Ever since American Airlines bought Alaskan back in the '80's, it's been a mess.
I remember them having a disaster because of poor maintenance, just to keep the crews and planes in the air per American's directives.
Some of the uninformed garbage posted on here is embarrassing. What social media platform did you read that American owns Alaskan?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:05 pm to redstick13
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one of the most successful American companies.
They have been living off their old reputation for a long time.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:10 pm to Lsut81
Thank god that didn't hit the horizontal stabilizer when it broke free.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:15 pm to Lsut81
Yea, it looks like it's just a complete panel that came off.
Bet the dude in that seat needed new drawers.
Bet the dude in that seat needed new drawers.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:23 pm to Saintsisit
I just wonder where it fell. Was it over land and if so has anyone reported anything.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:31 pm to OU Guy
How do you think they are compensating customers? Like a million points for those in a 5 seat radius, 500k for 10 seat circumference and then like 10k each for the rest of the plane?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:43 pm to OU Guy
I flew so much, short of a crash, I’ve seen it all. We lost a co pilot’s windshield going into Memphis one night. We’ve lost engines, flat tires, oil leaks….new Airbus lost the entire hydraulic system on the fist passenger trip, as we taxied out in Denver. Pilot stood right beside me, looked down and “You’re right, not supposed to sound like that.” We taxied back to the gate.
Got so bad, my wife had an envelope inside the office desk. One million in life insurance and business cards of my attorneys.
Travel Department screwed up on a Trade Show flight back home and had all of Marketing on the plane with me going home. We overflew Tampa airport, too high on the approach. Monday morning there was letter on everyone’s desk.
“From this moment forward no one flies on the same flight with Ray.”
I thought it was funny.
Got so bad, my wife had an envelope inside the office desk. One million in life insurance and business cards of my attorneys.
Travel Department screwed up on a Trade Show flight back home and had all of Marketing on the plane with me going home. We overflew Tampa airport, too high on the approach. Monday morning there was letter on everyone’s desk.
“From this moment forward no one flies on the same flight with Ray.”
I thought it was funny.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 1:48 pm to bluedragon
Would it be a less violent decompression at 17000ft in comparison to cruising altitude of 32000ft?
I’d imagine at 32000ft the threat of getting sucked out would be greater. Like imagine walking to the bathroom and in five seconds be in free fall to the ground in the clear blue sky.
I’d imagine at 32000ft the threat of getting sucked out would be greater. Like imagine walking to the bathroom and in five seconds be in free fall to the ground in the clear blue sky.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:18 pm to Delacroix22
It's crazy that this has happened but I'm not surprised. One of my best friends works in the airline industry for a subsidiary of one of the major airlines (won't say specific but between Delta, American, United and Southwest) and he's been warning me about this for years, especially since the pandemic.
It's not even so much DEI but just flat out losing a lot of experience maintenance personnel and their institutional knowledge. Plus with tighter turnarounds less chance to truly inspect and perform needed maintenance on aircraft.
My friend doesn't work in maintenance directly but works in parts/purchasing. He does purchasing for one of the Hub of the airlines subsidiary and of course parts is essentially the sister department of maintenance. He knows many of the maintenance personnel of both the subsidiary as well as the parent airline at that Hub.
Like with many industries many of the experienced maintenance personnel retired during Covid and didn't come back. The airlines are trying to be cheap and they are getting what they paid for. Flat out less competent technicians and other maintenance personnel.
My friend, who again works in the industry and is able to travel anywhere within the U.S. for free, is hesitant to get on an airplane, including from his own airline, from what he sees regularly. He flat out has told me if it's within 500 miles he's driving. He's been warning me about this for years as the aircraft are built chepaer, parts aren't as reliable and the technicians aren't as experienced.
Needless to say he messaged me last night. Said it's finally happened and he has been worried about this for awhile. Said if the general public saw what he sees half of America wouldn't get on an airplane.
It's not even so much DEI but just flat out losing a lot of experience maintenance personnel and their institutional knowledge. Plus with tighter turnarounds less chance to truly inspect and perform needed maintenance on aircraft.
My friend doesn't work in maintenance directly but works in parts/purchasing. He does purchasing for one of the Hub of the airlines subsidiary and of course parts is essentially the sister department of maintenance. He knows many of the maintenance personnel of both the subsidiary as well as the parent airline at that Hub.
Like with many industries many of the experienced maintenance personnel retired during Covid and didn't come back. The airlines are trying to be cheap and they are getting what they paid for. Flat out less competent technicians and other maintenance personnel.
My friend, who again works in the industry and is able to travel anywhere within the U.S. for free, is hesitant to get on an airplane, including from his own airline, from what he sees regularly. He flat out has told me if it's within 500 miles he's driving. He's been warning me about this for years as the aircraft are built chepaer, parts aren't as reliable and the technicians aren't as experienced.
Needless to say he messaged me last night. Said it's finally happened and he has been worried about this for awhile. Said if the general public saw what he sees half of America wouldn't get on an airplane.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:25 pm to MikeBRLA
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The issue here is that this aircraft was only used to island hop between the Hawaiian islands. So the flight hours were really low, but the fuselage had tons of compression/decompression cycles on it bc of its history of very short flights. Way more compression/decompression cycles than the flight hours would normally indicate.
I learned something today, mate. Thank you.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:25 pm to MrLSU
Alaska is a good airline, this will get figured out quickly.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:28 pm to Darth_Vader
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Look for things like this to become more and more common in the coming years.
Depressing but it sure as hell looks like it.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:30 pm to LSUPilot07
I made the switch from Delta to Alaska this past year. I'm a fan for sure and am often on these PDX to CA flights. I'll keep my eyes open for fellow TD posters. 
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:32 pm to Delacroix22
Assuming that part of the floor doesn’t tear out, wouldn’t keeping your belt on help after getting back from the crapper?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:51 pm to Tempratt
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Depressing but it sure as hell looks like it.
Given I'm not speaking from personal experience. I'm not in the airline industry. But yes he's warned me about this for years. He doesn't think its just maintenance but that between maintenance losing highly skilled techs, inferior cheaper parts being used when building the planes and even down to flawed aircraft design that it very well will happen more often.
Like many in the industry he prefers Airbus over Boeing and hates that Boeing basically has the "too big to fail" status in the U.S. Even before this he has told me he refuses to fly in the MAX. He believes it's a flawed design. Of course sadly for passengers they don't know if they are in a MAX until they are on the aircraft.
He's already told me he's not looking forward to Monday. That he thinks the next few months will be a grind as the higher ups for the major airlines are going to want all their aircraft inspected for this same issue. He told me they'll get serious on safety but then after 6 months or in a year the safety standards go back to being too lax.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 3:00 pm to 3deadtrolls
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I flew Alaska last night (not this plane) and they are the best experience out of the domestic carriers hands down. If they go where I’m going, I fly them.
They have some good ones hopping these islands here in SE AK. Some of these airports are in precarious locations, and the weather can suck.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 3:26 pm to TheMT83
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Like many in the industry he prefers Airbus over Boeing
This is just not true.
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