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re: Alaskan Airlines plane had an issue tonight as part of the plane fell apart in the air

Posted on 1/6/24 at 6:04 am to
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9723 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 6:04 am to
Boeing can't stop fricking shite up - not surprised - probably being designed and built by a bunch of blue haired Ze/Zirs over there in Washington.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 6:05 am
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131420 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 6:06 am to
DEI is more important than safety.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27106 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 6:22 am to
More likely profit is more important than safety. Not to say DEI isn't a problem, but I'd wager firing your good domestic engineers for cheaper foreign engineers is the issue. You also have the FAA in bed with Boeing and their lobbyists.
Posted by lsu for the win
Member since Jun 2022
819 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 6:26 am to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51304 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:34 am to
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just penny pinching suits.


Maybe the workers in South Carolina suck at making planes
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7467 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:41 am to
Anyone remember this incident:

Aloha Airlines Flight 243
Aloha Airlines Flight 243 (IATA: AQ243, ICAO: AAH243) was a scheduled Aloha Airlines flight between Hilo and Honolulu in Hawaii. On April 28, 1988, a Boeing 737-297 serving the flight suffered extensive damage after an explosive decompression in flight, caused by part of the fuselage breaking due to poor maintenance and metal fatigue. The plane was able to land safely at Kahului Airport on Maui. The one fatality, flight attendant Clarabelle "C.B." Lansing, was ejected from the airplane. Another 65 passengers and crew were injured. The substantial damage inflicted by the decompression, the loss of one cabin crew member, and the safe landing of the aircraft established the incident as a significant event in the history of aviation, with far-reaching effects on aviation safety policies and procedures.[3]

I remember watching the made for TV movie on the incident.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16474 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:51 am to
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Aloha Airlines Flight 243


This incident changed the way they “aged” aircraft. Prior to this incident, they only looked at flight hours to determine how much life was left in the fuselage. The issue here is that this aircraft was only used to island hop between the Hawaiian islands. So the flight hours were really low, but the fuselage had tons of compression/decompression cycles on it bc of its history of very short flights. Way more compression/decompression cycles than the flight hours would normally indicate.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72976 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:52 am to
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JFC. If I was in that seat I’d never be able to fly again.


Eh, the chances of it happening again would be astronomical.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67493 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:55 am to
quote:

Alaskan Airlines plane had an issue tonight as part of the plane fell apart in the air

"'Cuse me stewardess, I'll have a beer, non-AB, and a door."
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14735 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:55 am to
quote:

Look for things like this to become more and more common in the coming years.


Why?
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28199 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:11 am to
Great info- always wondered about that.

RIP to the lady that died...
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71190 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:13 am to
Glad I sold $ALK.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
2999 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:14 am to
Nah, just some shutdown engines over the years. Nothing too crazy.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2870 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Some baw got drunk and blew the escape hatch


“The hatch just blew…. it was a glitch… it was a technical MALFUNCTION!!!”


Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
1292 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:32 am to
Boeing has turned into an absolute shite show. They’ve stopped focusing on quality because they’ve just been the default for so long and think they deserve everything. I go out of my way to fly airbus exclusively.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 8:33 am
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65751 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Aloha Airlines Flight 243
quote:

The one fatality, flight attendant Clarabelle "C.B." Lansing, was ejected from the airplane.
It is common knowledge that Aloha can mean hello or goodbye.
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
2976 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:43 am to
frick Boeing

quote:

Little noticed, the Federal Aviation Administration in December published a Boeing request for an exemption from key safety standards on the 737 MAX 7 — the still-uncertified smallest member of Boeing’s newest jet family. Since August, earlier models of the MAX currently flying passengers in the U.S. have had to limit use of the jet’s engine anti-ice system after Boeing discovered a defect in the system with potentially catastrophic consequences. The flaw could cause the inlet at the front end of the pod surrounding the engine — known as a nacelle — to break and fall off. In an August Airworthiness Directive, the FAA stated that debris from such a breakup could penetrate the fuselage, putting passengers seated at windows behind the wings in danger, and could damage the wing or tail of the plane, “which could result in loss of control of the airplane.”


Boeing quality has fallen off over the years as they put profits well ahead of safety. I’d think long and hard before stepping into a 737 Max.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 8:45 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64618 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Look for things like this to become more and more common in the coming years.


quote:

Why?


Let’s be honest, it’s obvious our society is placing less and less emphasis on competence across the board. Standards are being lowered in everything from the military to even the medical field. DEI is a growing cancer that, unless we reverse course very soon, will begin to have serious real-world consequences.

Coupled with this fact is the pitifully small number of young people who are going into skilled trades. No one wants to turn wrenches any more. They’d rather sit in a cubicle, staring at a screen and banging on a keyboard all day. And that’s if they’re even willing to put down the bong and x-box controller long enough to work at all. In the coming years as my generation (Gen X) nears retirement, there will be a growing shortage of workers needed to maintain many of the mechanical systems our society relies upon to function, including the air transportation system.




Thus, as things stand now, in the coming years there will be far fewer aircraft mechanics and those we will have will be less competent than those they’re replacing due to retirement.
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
2976 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Let’s be honest, it’s obvious our society is placing less and less emphasis on competence across the board. Standards are being lowered in everything from the military to even the medical field.


No blame on the companies for putting profits ahead of safety??
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
5294 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:46 am to
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Is it DEI or just penny pinching suits.


I cant stand DEI, but jfc cmon, trying to make it that.

It's all abt being cheap, watch the documentaries, there are plenty of shows abt the Max failures.
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