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re: Alaskan Airlines plane had an issue tonight as part of the plane fell apart in the air

Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:34 am to
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:34 am to
quote:

Physics


Then why wasn't the seat or seat belt ripped out of the plane? The biggest danger physics would play is the air being ripped out of your lungs and passing out.
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:35 am to
Everything but the plastic frame was ripped out of the seat.
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:37 am to
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Everything but the plastic frame was ripped out of the seat.


Yeah all that shite is basically velcroed in. The seatbelt, ya know the thing that keeps the person in the seat, is clearly still there.
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3485 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:49 am to
One commentator from your Professional Pilots' Rumor Network PPRuNe.org link:


quote:

”Boeing has sent a team of 20 accountants to investigate.”


Also, Chris Brady of Boeing 737 Technical Site did an updated video specifically on this incident

LINK https://youtu.be Chris Brady Boeing 737 Technical Site
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 4:08 am
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38547 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 5:54 am to
Very informative video, thanks for sharing. So according to this guy the plug is secured in place by 4 bolts. Sounds like there was some sort of problem with the bolts to allow the plug to detach.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38547 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:41 am to
FAA grounded all 737 Max 9 airplanes. Around 176 in total around the globe.
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
1943 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:54 am to
I thought the cabin would look like a tornado, but from the looks of the hair on the passengers its just a nice breeze. I guess the aerodynamics of the plane is why, and that is impresssive.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:56 am to
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I was on that flight in the back on the D side row 30ish in the rear of the plane. exactly 2 weeks ago on the 22nd SEA to Anchorage


Coulda been y’all……..
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64618 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 8:07 am to
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Why don’t you go check out the ages of Boeing’s executive board. Every singe person is Gen X. Yet you find way to blame younger people.


Reading comprehension and logical deduction must not be your strong suits. You completely missed the point of my posit, which had nothing to do with Boeing’s executive board, but rather how as today’s aircraft mechanics reach retirement age, there is a shortage of young people going into the field to replace them.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
3935 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:04 am to
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At 16,000ft, you're getting sucked out if you're in that seat. I haven't been able to confirm it yet, but the rumor is the two people that should have been in those seats missed their connection which is why they went out unoccupied.


Wrong, if you're buckled in you'd likely be fine. The seat cover got sucked off of course because no one was sitting there. BA Flight 5390 had the captain sucked halfway out at 17000' and he wasn't buckled and survived.
If someone had been in this seat properly restrained they'd have been fine.
Posted by thefodgather
Member since Jan 2024
108 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:29 am to
quote:

thought the cabin would look like a tornado, but from the looks of the hair on the passengers its just a nice breeze. I guess the aerodynamics of the plane is why, and that is impresssive.


Only takes a few seconds for the pressure to equalize. After that, it's like a bus with a window down.

As always the moral is, movies are way off.
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3277 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 11:06 am to
& how many of these jobs are being replaced by AI?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37116 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 11:50 am to
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Stay buckled in and you'll likely not get sucked out.


So it this going to lead to regulations that you have to stay buckled in the entire flight? No more taking belt off, no more going to bathroom, etc?
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18871 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 11:53 am to
quote:

part of the plane fell apart in the air


on the plus side, most of it didn't
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64618 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:08 pm to
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& how many of these jobs are being replaced by AI?


Are you actually asking how many aircraft mechanics are being replaced by AI?

Like you’re seriously asking this?


Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28199 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 1:14 pm to
Airlines would love that shite...


No other industry hates their customers like the airlines.

They basically write their own regulations, and short of planes falling out of the sky, they do what they want.
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 2:30 pm
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3277 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 1:16 pm to
Yes, I am suggesting that AI has and will continue to have a major influence on the aviation industry, even at the ground level. To suggest otherwise is naive. You’re probably the boomer who still doesn't know how to work a Microsoft Teams call.

“For example, aircraft manufacturers and service technicians can use AI software and robots, including language learning models like ChatGPT, to streamline assembly and maintenance, repair, and overhaul (MRO) processes. Airlines and other operators can also use AI for fleet optimization, flight planning, and ground operations. Engineers developing aircraft can use AI tools to facilitate and speed up the design and certification of products before they even hit the market.”


LINK

Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Yes, I am suggesting that AI has and will continue to have a major influence on the aviation industry, even at the ground level. To suggest otherwise is naive. You’re probably the boomer who still doesn't know how to work a Microsoft Teams call


The regulatory agencies that would have to approve AI taking over airline jobs is going to be at least a decade behind the technology. It really doesn't matter how good AI is to be honest.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6007 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

No other industry hates their customers like the airlines.


Phone companies
Cable companies
Electric companies
Rental car agencies
Insurance companies
Auto dealerships

All have way worse customer service/appreciation.
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3485 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

FAA grounded all 737 Max 9 airplanes. Around 176 in total around the globe.


Right now Iceland Air has 4 flying over the NE Canada towards Reykjavek and Copa Air has 3 in the air over Sout America
( 10:10 est Jan 7)
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