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re: Alaskan Airlines plane had an issue tonight as part of the plane fell apart in the air
Posted on 1/8/24 at 5:20 am to MrLSU
Posted on 1/8/24 at 5:20 am to MrLSU
CNN reports that the plane’s auto pressurization failure light illuminated three times in the previous month for undetermined reasons, so the airline had restricted it from flying trans-oceanic routes (e.g. Hawaii) at the time of the incident.
Seems like Alaska Airlines took a gamble, and Boeing gets the blame.
Seems like Alaska Airlines took a gamble, and Boeing gets the blame.
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:29 am to Pepperoni
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Right now Iceland Air has 4 flying over the NE Canada towards Reykjavek and Copa Air has 3 in the air over Sout America
There's like a 4 hour inspection then they're deemed safe to fly again I believe.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:39 am to Pepperoni
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Right now Iceland Air has 4 flying over the NE Canada towards Reykjavek and Copa Air has 3 in the air over Sout America
( 10:10 est Jan 7)
In the video posted earlier it says the inspection is only for the 4 plug bolts and takes about 5 hours to complete.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:42 am to theronswanson
Come on, they would never allow faulty planes up in the air.
Just like they would never give out a leaky vaccine.
Just like they would never give out a leaky vaccine.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:45 am to Darth_Vader
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but rather how as today’s aircraft mechanics reach retirement age, there is a shortage of young people going into the field to replace them.
We all got DEI degrees or serve at restaurants. Sometimes both.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:51 am to Big Scrub TX
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It's the best. They had that devastating crash in the mid-90s and essentially just decided to be the best after that. Most of the employees are lifers who own the stock also, and you can tell.
Every single person on flight 261 died. If they had that happen again they wouldn’t be an airline anymore.
That was in 2000. They really couldn’t afford more devastating crashes in such a short period.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 6:58 am
Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:48 am to WB Davis
Apparently the plane completed 49 flights uneventfully after delivery then spent ten days at a maintenance facility in Oklahoma City having WiFi installed. The pressurization problems started the day, or day after, it left Oklahoma City.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:17 am to LarryCLE
Investigators said Sunday they had found the piece of fuselage that blew off a Boeing airliner over Oregon on Friday, and hoped it would provide physical evidence of what went wrong.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:18 am to MrLSU
wafb had the caption under the video reading " plane loses plane during flight".
plane lost itself?
plane lost itself?
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:19 am to LarryCLE
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then spent ten days at a maintenance facility in Oklahoma City having WiFi installed. The pressurization problems started the day, or day
I would have thought that would be installed at the factory and standard these days
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:21 am to LarryCLE
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WiFi installed
Obvious question:
Was that panel removed and replaced during installation?
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:29 am to LSUFanHouston
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I would have thought that would be installed at the factory and standard these days
Probably installed by the WiFi vendor or the airline. Similar to Swissair 111.
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In August 1997, the MD-11 jet that would later crash as Swissair Flight 111 entered a hangar for a maintenance overhaul by Swissair mechanics and an entertainment system installation by Hollingsead.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:50 am to TheMT83
after years servicing the aircraft industry, I can no longer fly.
I drive no matter the distance
I drive no matter the distance
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:09 am to VetteGuy
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Was that panel removed and replaced during installation?
I’m not sure. I read about the WiFi on an aviation forum. Some folks claim that doors, paneling, and possibly plugs are removed but there wasn’t any evidence provided. Here is a picture of a Max 9 with WiFi. The WiFi hub(?) is pretty close to the plugged exit door.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:06 am to LarryCLE
Icelandair is one of the few airlines that actually runs the mid-fuselage exit door. It isn't a plug on that plane.
Notice the window on the door looks smaller instead of like a traditional window on the plug.
Notice the window on the door looks smaller instead of like a traditional window on the plug.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:56 am to dr
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after years servicing the aircraft industry, I can no longer fly.
I drive no matter the distance
I guess you like the thrill of living dangerously?
LINK
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The number of deaths per passenger-mile on commercial airlines in the United States between 2000 and 2010 was about 0.2 deaths per 10 billion passenger-miles. For driving, the rate was 150 per 10 billion vehicle-miles: 750 times higher per mile than for flying in a commercial airplane.
ETA: The 750 times higher rate includes the 4 planes lost on 9/11. Since 9/11 I think there has only been one or two major fatal accidents in the US. So the rate the past 10 years or so is probably 1000 or 2000 times safer in the air than in a car.
I'm a numbers guy. I'll take the plane.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 10:59 am
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:03 pm to No Colors
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after years servicing the aircraft industry, I can no longer fly.
I drive no matter the distance
I guess you like the thrill of living dangerously?
LINK
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The number of deaths per passenger-mile on commercial airlines in the United States between 2000 and 2010 was about 0.2 deaths per 10 billion passenger-miles. For driving, the rate was 150 per 10 billion vehicle-miles: 750 times higher per mile than for flying in a commercial airplane.
ETA: The 750 times higher rate includes the 4 planes lost on 9/11. Since 9/11 I think there has only been one or two major fatal accidents in the US. So the rate the past 10 years or so is probably 1000 or 2000 times safer in the air than in a car.
I'm a numbers guy. I'll take the plane.
I know you replled to someone else but I wanted to chime in on driving stats.
Your rate is all driving deaths which a majority are by problem drivers. Meaning DUI or on cell or not paying attention. I would bet a ton of drivers who actually focus on driving - the rate would very small. Only once you deduct all the outliers coukd you compare a focused driver vs flying.
And yes, a focused driver can be caught up in others accidents but at a much lower rate than you show. And yes, flying is still safer numbers wise, but there is a joy to driving and having control vs along for the ride in aircraft.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:28 pm to dr
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after years servicing the aircraft industry, I can no longer fly. I drive no matter the distance
Sheesh bro
Posted on 1/9/24 at 1:29 am to NoBoDawg
Turns out the cockpit voice recorder has been "overwritten."
They only store 2 hours worth of recording and then begin to overwrite themselves. My question is, how long could it have possibly been from the time of the blowout to the plane being back on the ground and shutdown?
They only store 2 hours worth of recording and then begin to overwrite themselves. My question is, how long could it have possibly been from the time of the blowout to the plane being back on the ground and shutdown?
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