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re: Alabama cops shoots man exiting his vehicle with his wallet
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:53 am to Pecker
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:53 am to Pecker
quote:considering that there are instances where people have been shot in the vehicle bc the cop supposedly feared for his life and all...
You think the odds of his being shot inside the car are the same as his exiting the vehicle?
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:53 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm saying that the evidence available can be shown to support the officers claim that he feared for his life because he did not know what the victim had in his hand.
It's not a strong case. But it appears to be stronger than the alternative. I'm not arguing that it was a good decision. I'm arguing that it's reasonable to assume that it's the reason he shot the man.
It's not a strong case. But it appears to be stronger than the alternative. I'm not arguing that it was a good decision. I'm arguing that it's reasonable to assume that it's the reason he shot the man.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:53 am to shel311
Why wasn't the truck driver who was out of his car not shot as well? I mean if getting out of your car when the responding officer arrives means you should be treated as a criminal, he should of shot both.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:54 am to Pecker
quote:the truck driver was outside of his vehicle right?
Because I don't think he should have stayed in his car.
You think the odds of his being shot inside the car are the same as his exiting the vehicle?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:54 am to Pecker
quote:All true. But once you add the term "reasonably" I do not agree.
I'm saying that the evidence available can be shown to support the officers claim that he feared for his life because he did not know what the victim had in his hand.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 11:55 am
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:54 am to shel311
quote:
I thought OJ was not innocent and I think the cop was not justified to shoot the guy, so yea, lots of similarities.
If you think OJ Simpson murdering two people and getting off for political reasons are the same as this then so be it.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:54 am to deathvalleyfreak43
quote:
I like the fact that you think its completely okay to have "dumb cops" that will just randomly shoot people
So many people die, get injured, and suffer property damage from just normal bad drivers on the road each year. Should we revoke some driving priveledges?
This cop should lose his job.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:55 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
the truck driver was outside of his vehicle right?
He was outside of the vehicle with no objects (as far as I can tell) in his hand when the officer arrived on the scene.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:55 am to Darth_Vader
Go die again
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:56 am to Napoleon
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you saw the3 horror in the truck driver's face when he realized the cop was shooting? Then he held his hands up too.
Would be interesting to hear the truck driver's testimony at trial as a witness to this.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:56 am to shel311
quote:
All true. But once you add the term "reasonably" I do not agree.
Reasonably doesn't apply to our perception of reason. It only need apply to his ability to reason given the circumstances.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:56 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
that doesn't mean he's absolved from potential criminal liability
does the courts decision absolve him of potential criminal liability?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:56 am to Pecker
quote:sir you said he should have remained in his vehicle
He was outside of the vehicle with no objects (as far as I can tell) in his hand when the officer arrived on the scene.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:57 am to Topwater Trout
quote:
does the courts decision absolve him of potential criminal liability?
Absolve? No. But the likelihood of him being charged by the DA after being held justified in civil court is exactly 0.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:58 am to Dam Guide
quote:
Why wasn't the truck driver who was out of his car not shot as well? I mean if getting out of your car when the responding officer arrives means you should be treated as a criminal, he should of shot both.
maybe that who the cop was aiming for.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:58 am to meauxjeaux2
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sir you said he should have remained in his vehicle
Yes. It would have been better had all parties been in their vehicles.
I also think it would have been better if he had been outside of the vehicle with his hands visible when the officer arrived. It's an unfortunate set of circumstances that led to the man being shot.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:58 am to Pecker
Levar Jones shot when asked to show his license
I think you just want to argue. Let's see you justify this one, pecker.
I think you just want to argue. Let's see you justify this one, pecker.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:58 am to ell_13
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quote:
For the last three years, Davidson was hoping to seek justice against the man who shot him for no reason. However, as is the case in so many other police shootings, the shooting was found to be justified — because the cop expressed a justifiable reason to fear for his life.
“The City, the Chief of Police and its officer have always denied any wrongdoing,” a statement from the City of Opelika in response to the most recent court ruling read. “This case has now been analyzed by two federal courts … The judges have unanimously determined after a review of the evidence, which includes the dash cam video, there was no wrongdoing on behalf of the City, the Chief, or the involved officer. In reaching their respective decisions, these Federal Courts reviewed all of the evidence. Their opinions are clearly supported by all evidence.”
That's just pathetic. frick that cop and the shitty courts that ruled it justified.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:58 am to Pecker
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Pecker
Still trolling this thread 25 pages in? That's impressive
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:59 am to Pecker
quote:I doubt his "ability to reason" matters, only whether it was actually reasonable.
It only need apply to his ability to reason
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